And then the media will give Nader a lot of air time...and Obama will not look progressive enough.  But it will be too late.  Because the progressives just knew Obama was the second coming of JFK and RFK...and gee...this is so unfair...

That's just disgusting. Marsh saying it is disgusting. Her commenters nodding to it is disgusting.

You don't know me at all Lily, so I'll take the ad hominems as expressions of partisanship in a tough campaign and nothing truly personal, but I don't despise Hillary Clinton. On the contrary, even though I prefer Obama, I respect Hillary Clinton a great deal and would have no problem at all voting for her in the GE.

Moreover, if you'd like to make a case that Hillary Clinton is the better candidate, I'm willing to have that conversation.

Don't think for one second that he can't cost us this one as well.

I would never vote for him but then again I am not sure I'll vote for Obama or McCain either.

I am relatively new to this site, having left the Huffington Post never to return. Am I embittered? Yes and I hold Lawrence O'Donnell largely responsible for it. I never cared for Obama, again the naivete, but O'Donnell made me come to really dislike Obama. I appreciate the fact that Big Tent Democrat is a sane Obama supporter, we can have honest differences of opinion on both style and substance but the level of insanity now prevalent on Huffington Post, TPM, Daily Kos, C&L and even the DU is beyond my tolerance for fair and honest debate. I'll note this the last time I didn't vote Democratic was 1980 when I voted for John Anderson. I am prepared to do so again.

I am in a position where I detest the probable nominees.  Voting FOR either one appalls me.

So, I think I will go vote,and vote against John McCain.  It won't be easy, but I think my state (PA) will be close.

If I lived in the South,Kansas, or Utah, etc I would definitely stay home.

If McCain gets in, all the Bushies will have been vindicated, and they'll be back in places.  That's enough to make me sick.

And your last comment is unacceptable. I've opened up my thinking to you and told you that I have never voted my own economic self-interest and yet you accuse me of being spiteful.

But I only see that landslide happening with an Obama/Clinton ticket or Clinton/Obama ticket.

You won't vote for the candidate endorsed by the SEIU and Teamsters

Those endorsement mean little to me in light of what happened in IL and who the Maytag Union endorsed (Hillary, btw) and why. They mean even less to me when I remember he called unions "special interests" when they were backing Edwards.

"Obama had a special connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, one of the company's directors and biggest investors whose family, records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns since 2003. But Crown says Obama never raised the fate of the Galesburg plant with him, and the billionaire industrialist insists any jawboning would have been futile."

"Obama's fundraising collides with his rhetoric"

Jesse Jackson Jr.,

LOL, I mean really stop it. You're making him less appealing by the minute and reminding me that I will never vote for Jesse Jackson Jr for anything after his ridiculous race-baiting antics this primary. You see I remember JJ jr going on television after NH and saying Hillary cried about her hair but didn't cry about Hurricane Katrina victims. I know JJ jr has been playing the race card with black Superdelegates.

"He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?"

Black lawmakers rethink Clinton support.

So not only has his campaign openly used race to divide voters in this primary but he was too cowardly to do it himself. He sent out the son of a man who many think is a race peddler and who people think negatively of. He did it because if the race card blew up in his face then he could always do away with JJ jr and remain blames less because we all know that the apples don't fall from the trees.

But I also have a dog in this fight. In Nevada when Unite Here was running that Spanish ad against Hillary claiming she didn't respect Hispanics Obama said nothing. Even Edwards spoke up and asked for Obama to speak up and denounce the ad. But Obama remained silent and again let his supporters inject race and I find that cowardly and as a Latino unforgivable.

One thing I've noticed is that the more pushy Obama supporters get in trying to get people to say they will vote for their candidate the more people feel disinclined to do so.  One of the more offensive things I saw were diaries on dkos about the time Edwards was going to quit telling Edwards supporters that now was the time to switch to Obama.  All those diaries did was to push people away.  Allow people time to make their own decision.  First of all the nomination isn't over with and demanding that people say they will support the nominee or they are no kind of Democrat is insulting and pushy.  How about first letting the voters make the decision if your guy is the nominee and then after allow people to come to terms with it?  I lived through Dean going down and eventually went out and worked for Kerry.  But it isn't a quick switch to change over to the nominee.  This aggressive behavior in calling on Hillary supporters to show their Democratic bone fides while your own candidate hasn't taken back his offensive statement that he could count on her supporters while she couldn't count on his is doubly offensive.