Hillary's Speech

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:32:13 PM EST
Tags: Indiana '08, Hillary Clinton (all tags)

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CNN says Hillary Clinton is expected to address her supporters shortly. I'll live-blog when it happens.

Not too long ago my opponent made a prediction. I would win PA, he would win North Carolina, Indiana would be the tiebreaker.

We've broken the tie and now it's full speed onto the White house.

Talks about gas problems, "tonight is your victory right here."

Commends Obama on N.C. win but "we are on same journey." It began long before we were born. Tonight once again I need your help to continue our journey. More...

She asks for contributions, go to HillaryClinton.com.

This is a touching moment for me. I grew up in Chicago and surrounding area. Talks about her mother from Scranton, PA.

I have met so many people who feel invisible. You feel invisible when gas and groceries cost so much and have health insurance problems.

I know how hard you are working for yourselves and family and I will never stop working for you.

Shouts of Hillary, Hillary interrupt her.

Talks about gas prices again. Time for a break from the tax. To freeze foreclosures. To give everyone health insurance.

Americans need a champion in their corner.

She looks really poised and sounds totally energized.

Says the race is really close.I can assure you that no matter what happens I will work for the nominee because we must win in November. Shouts of Yes we will.

Says Obama feels the same way. Everone should realize what's at stake in this elections.

Talks about veterans. This journey has been a blessing for her. I know what this journey has meant to me, and I know what it means for you. We must ensure it is here for our grandchildren. I will never give up on you.

Thanks the people of Indiana and Evan Bayh. Thanks people of NOrth Carolina and Gov. Mike Easley.

While we are celebrating tonight, I want to express sympathy for people in Myamar. Calls on them to let world come in to help.

Now it is on to W. Va and Kentucky and the other states. We've let them slip out of Democratic column, it's time to take them back.

I am going to work hard to win them this month and in the general election in November.

We have to count Florida and Michigan. Crowd chants. Says it would be wierd (not her word)to have an election with only 48 states. I will keep going.

We can be the can do nation. There's nothing we can't do,

Huge hugs from Bill and Chelsea. They are clapping.

CNN says still too close to call Indiana with 86% of the vote in.

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She's lookin good in Parisian Blue (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:37:45 PM EST

And her first sentence was about the tie breaker (5.00 / 3) (#4)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:39:27 PM EST

Doesn't that make BTD right about something that happened tonight?


Obama said it would be the tie-breaker (5.00 / 2) (#19)
by ineedalife on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:45:58 PM EST

She is using his own claim against him. So he can waffle again and explain how he was just trying to hoodwink and bamboozle us.


Obama is the one who called Indiana (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:46:24 PM EST

the "tie breaker". BTD thought he would probably live to regret saying that and I'm thinking he's going to now too.


I think BTDs (3.00 / 2) (#35)
by waldenpond on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:53:19 PM EST

media darling theory comes in here. If the media doesn't report it, did it ever really happen? I'm sure Obama said no such thing, in fact, nope, it's gone ...


It happened, she'll be reminding them (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:54:06 PM EST

don't worry.


so the solution is to roll over and (5.00 / 2) (#75)
by kangeroo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:26:58 PM EST

let the media take over and dictate our elections? of course not. the answer is to FIGHT BACK. with more phone calls to media and press outlets, more e-mails to the DNC, more blogging to expose media manipulation, more talking to anyone and everybody who'll listen, more recruiting support and selling clinton's case.

just yesterday i found out that one of my friends had the story about MI & FL completely wrong--and gee, what a surprise to hear he was getting his news from olbermann. but ya know what, that's one more person who's now aware of a different narrative out there.

even a thousand-mile journey begins with one step.


: how (none / 0) (#88)
by Leisa on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:52:26 PM EST

unfortunate!

Not tied? (5.00 / 2) (#48)
by ricosuave on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:00:28 PM EST

Actually, in the grand scheme of things it IS tied right now. By all accounts, they are separated by about 3% in the delegate count. Neither candidate will get enough votes to clinch the nomination.

Earlier on CNN, John King went to the big board and was trying to make the point that this was mathematically difficult for Hillary to win. But all he did was show that, following the next several votes, a small swing in the supers can throw this one way or the other very easily. Like it or not, the real tiebreakers are the superdelegates.

As was generally expected, nothing happened to end this tonight. Again, despite massive spending and starting off with a lead in the polls, Obama couldn't knock her out. Hillary is still in the game, and she is about to rack up some solid wins.


And It Will Be Pure Class, As Always.... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:37:47 PM EST

Keep the faith people.

she looks great (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:38:18 PM EST

Full speed (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by Makarov on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:40:32 PM EST

to the White House (with a quick stop in Denver).

Bill needs to use more sunblock.

Heh, he's burnt but he looks happy (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:42:03 PM EST

he looks proud of her (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:43:10 PM EST

"Invisible" speech (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:45:14 PM EST

Hey, if Lake CO is trying to tie you up......you might as well campaign for the upcoming states! You can't face plant her.


: Now he's starting to look tired (5.00 / 1) (#28)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:50:03 PM EST

He needs a nap.

Ok, so it looks like she thinks (5.00 / 3) (#10)
by andgarden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:43:23 PM EST

she won IN. Good, that's probably right.

So if the tie-breaker line can take hold, she can hold on until WV, where she'll have a blowout win. I think this is all probably over for her, though.

I don't think it's over until someone (5.00 / 2) (#20)
by cosbo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:46:17 PM EST

actually wins the nomination. I don't think she's going to concede. I think she'll go all the way to the convention because I think that she thinks that Obama is going to lose in the fall anyway, so there's no reason for her not to continue.

She'll fight for the MI/FL to be seated and then bargain with with the SDs on electability. If she lose after all that, then it's over.

That's my take anyway.


Florida and Michigan (5.00 / 4) (#30)
by ChuckieTomato on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:50:41 PM EST

The media keeps ignoring that with these two states Hillary is only 14 delegates behind. That was obviously before tonight


Go ahead... (1.00 / 1) (#43)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:57:14 PM EST

...and add Florida and Michigan. Obama has now made up whatever he lost in the popular vote and maintains a steady lead (adds delegates, actually) in the pledged delegate count. More supers will come out for Obama in the next week, Clinton won't win Kentucky or West Virginia by the predicted margins, and she's now likely to be crushed in Oregon.

Folks - barring a major scandal with Obama, it's over. Really, it's over.


It's over (5.00 / 1) (#53)
by kmblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:05:59 PM EST

when Clinton says it's over.


You're right... (1.00 / 1) (#58)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:10:39 PM EST

...but all she can do is postpone the inevitable now.

I expect she'll have the class, grace, and good sense to end it as soon as the last primary is held. She'll probably make some kind of deal with Obama to end the nastiness and run a Huckabee-like swan song campaign.


inevitable? (5.00 / 2) (#63)
by kmblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:12:47 PM EST

put down the Magic 8-ball! ;-)


Come on, man... (1.00 / 1) (#68)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:16:23 PM EST

...there's just no possibility for her to win the nomination barring a massive Obama scandal or gaffe.

Why is this so hard for Clinton supporters to realize?


you do realize that obama will lose the (5.00 / 1) (#74)
by sancho on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:24:15 PM EST

ge, don't you? are you ok with that? would you rather lose with obama than possibly win with hillary?


No, I don't realize that... (1.00 / 1) (#82)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:38:14 PM EST

...that's utter nonsense, based on pure speculation.

I could say the same thing about Clinton, but I wouldn't, because she clearly can win the election. I am so sick of these utterly unconvincing (because they cancel each other out) GE electability arguments coming from both sides.

The fact is that the structural advantages enjoyed by Democrats this year are so enormous - overwhelming, really, especially given now the economy - that any candidate can win.

Of course, there will be a few people (some here) who will try to abet a McCain victory, but they won't matter. Come June 15 - mark my words - Obama will get a nice bounce and never fall below 50 for the rest of the season. McCain, in the worst week of the primary for Obama, still can hardly best him (and will be behind him in all head to heads by the end of the week).

So please, stop your "He can't win" nonsense. Both can win, but only one will.


: Nah. (5.00 / 0) (#89)
by BrandingIron on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:53:44 PM EST

Come June 15 - mark my words - Obama will get a nice bounce and never fall below 50 for the rest of the season.
Mark MY words, by then there will be even more stuff seeping out of Obama's closet (especially after the massive defeats in KY and WV) that the buyer's remorse will become even stronger.

What I understand (5.00 / 2) (#78)
by kmblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:31:01 PM EST

is that it's in the
hands of the SDs.
If they choose to follow Obama off a cliff,
there's nothing I can do about that.


kmblue... (1.00 / 1) (#84)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:39:16 PM EST

...you're a lousy Democrat, plain and simple. If you can't think positively about the presumptive nominee of your party, what good are you for the Democrats?


: WTF? (5.00 / 1) (#87)
by echinopsia on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:45:58 PM EST

Why are we supposed to think well of someone who trashed the only two-term Democratic administration since WW II? What good is HE for the Democrats, is more like it.

That could very well happen (4.00 / 1) (#73)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:23:05 PM EST

when does the Rezko trial wrap up?


He may win (none / 0) (#91)
by Leisa on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:01:22 PM EST

the nomination... what about the GE?

I will vote for a Dem for sure, but as Michelle says about Clinton I do also feel about he "man"...

I will have to think about it and get to know him better before I will support him... HA!


She'll make it up pop. vote in KY & WV (5.00 / 1) (#61)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:11:53 PM EST

what do Obama supporters have against letting all the states vote?


I have nothing against it... (1.00 / 1) (#71)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:20:03 PM EST

...so long as she cuts a deal with Obama and ends the nastiness. She can have those states (and she will not make up the popular vote there - besides, popular vote is irrelevant, that's not how we nominate candidates, because no one agrees on what the actual popular vote is). Besides, Oregon will make up for most of the popular vote loss for Obama.

So, let everyone vote, build more infrastructure, but stop the madness on both sides. I suspect she will have the grace and good sense to run a Huckabee-esque campaign, highlight some issues, and work to unify the party. Many are suggesting that there was a note of conciliation in her speech today. I hope they're right.


Let everyone vote, (5.00 / 3) (#77)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:30:58 PM EST

and then hand the nomination to Obama -- how gracious of you! No thanks -- Teddy Kennedy took it to the convention trailing by 1000 delegates -- Hillary can do the same with less then a 3% difference -- it ain't over til its over -- and that is when someone gets 2209 (with FL & MI).
Book it!


: Include Michigan and Florida... (1.00 / 1) (#85)
by sar75 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:41:58 PM EST

...that will not change the popular vote or the pledged delegates.
I expect that Hlllary will indeed cut a deal with Obama to end the nastiness, but still build out the party in a couple of more states (including WV, which could easily go blue in November).
So yeah, the only classy thing to do now - especially after Obama brings in another 10-20 supers over the next week - is to go out with class and work on unifying the party. That's what a good Democrat would do, especially given the mathematical impossibility of her winning the nomination (even if she takes it to the convention).

If tonight is any indication she will have (4.00 / 1) (#26)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:49:25 PM EST

to stand up to a tidal wave of negative energy trying to push her out...I don't want her to take it to the convention. I don't see her doing it. Maybe after Oregon.


But wasn't yesterday that (5.00 / 1) (#34)
by cosbo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:52:57 PM EST

both Obama and Clinton said that they were in in until June?


I am behind if she keeps going (5.00 / 2) (#37)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:53:57 PM EST

it is why I love her, I would have quit tonight. I just don't want to see her dumped on. She has fought too hard for that.


: she will keep going because she's a (5.00 / 1) (#57)
by kangeroo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:09:42 PM EST

fighter. remember that's why we all love her? it's WE who can't give up on her. as long as we have her back, she'll stay in and she'll work her heart out. she gets her strength and will to continue through us, her supporters. that's why we can't give up. we have to help her fight back.

expectations have been reset (5.00 / 1) (#66)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:13:37 PM EST

by the Obama camp -- I'll say it again: they don't want her going into KY & WV because she will make up the popular vote totals there. So, everyone chillax and let the states vote.


she's going to go roaring into West Virginia... (5.00 / 5) (#38)
by p lukasiak on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:54:05 PM EST

talking about "your values", etc...

then go into Kentucky, and kick Obama's ass, and ignore Oregon...

then kick butt in Puerto Rico, that that night say that its June, the campaigning is over, and act like SD and MT don't exist....

Obama won't have his 2025, and she should just act non-chalant about what happens next -- just say that she's not conceding, and go on vacation, and watch as the GOP starts to tear Obama into tiny little pieces....


I care more about wining in November (5.00 / 1) (#45)
by andgarden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:59:11 PM EST

than anything else.


: Then forget about it if Obama is selected as ... (5.00 / 1) (#81)
by alexei on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:34:29 PM EST

the nominee. He will lose.

Wow (3.00 / 1) (#59)
by flyerhawk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:10:50 PM EST

I don't know what to say about this.


YYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! (none / 0) (#67)
by RickTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:15:37 PM EST

Andgarden (5.00 / 4) (#42)
by Kathy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:55:53 PM EST

stop with the sad talk! Two weeks ago, polling had her getting trounced in NC and IN, and look where we are now. What has drastically changed, except he got more of the black vote and she got more of the white vote?

When Obama was behind in polls and he closed the gap or exceeded expectations, folks talked about how great he was doing.

This double standard is maddening. It's so important that we keep supporting our girl. MI and FL matter. All her wins so far matter. WE matter.

She isn't giving up and neither am I.


i'm with you, kathy. (5.00 / 1) (#65)
by kangeroo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:13:10 PM EST

let's remember what hillary's promised us:

"I might stumble, I might get knocked down, but as long as you stand with me, I'll get right back up again."

this is NOT the time to give up on our girl. this is the time to recharge and redouble our efforts.


: CHUMBAWAMBA. (5.00 / 1) (#90)
by BrandingIron on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:57:31 PM EST

I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never going to keep me down
P*ssing the night away
P*ssing the night away
He drinks a whisky drink
He drinks a vodka drink
He drinks a lager drink
He drinks a cider drink
He sings the songs that remind him
Of the good times
He sings the songs that remind him
Of the better times
"Don't cry for me
Next door neighbour..."
Sorry, couldn't help it. XD!

Kathy, she got Trounced in NC, (3.00 / 2) (#51)
by andgarden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:05:19 PM EST

bad. IN was a Pyrrhic victory, and she underperformed compared to the polling I thought was best.

I don't think she can win this anymore.


I sent my $25 tonight (5.00 / 4) (#13)
by ineedalife on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:44:15 PM EST

And another coming on payday. Keep going Hillary!!

I saw your 25.00 (5.00 / 4) (#23)
by IKE on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:46:55 PM EST

I saw your 25.00 dollars and raise you twofold. I just donated 50.00 to her campaign. Good job, lets show our support for our fighter.


Throw in another $25 from me (5.00 / 4) (#25)
by otherlisa on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:47:42 PM EST

What the hell. I'm done when she's done.


$25 from me too (5.00 / 3) (#27)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:49:36 PM EST

more next week. She shouldn't have more faith in us then we have in her.


Hell why not (5.00 / 6) (#40)
by IKE on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:54:16 PM EST

I am logging back on HillaryClinton.com to donate another 50.00.


OK (5.00 / 3) (#49)
by Nadai on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:03:04 PM EST

That's too good a line to ignore. :) $25 more from me and more next week, too.


count me in too. let's not take our (5.00 / 2) (#72)
by kangeroo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:20:11 PM EST

eyes off the prize. we're doing this for the whole country and the world--it's a fight worth fighting for until the very end.


: Oh what the hey (5.00 / 2) (#80)
by Gideon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:34:01 PM EST

$50 from this first-time contributor.

My cat sees you all (5.00 / 6) (#31)
by Kathy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:51:03 PM EST

and raises you another 25!

Man, they were really stupid talking about those elderly, low information women voters for Hillary. They should'a thunk out the stereotype one inch farther and realized that WE ALL HAVE CATS WITH DEEP POCKETS!

Rise, Hillary Rise!


: My cat and dog have deep pockets and they're (5.00 / 2) (#70)
by DeborahNC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:17:31 PM EST

both sending in money right now. I'll match whatever they send! Hillary is not a quitter and we're not either! Who knows? Another one of Obama's friends might take his act on the road. I have a feeling he has some more good friends we'd all like to meet!
Rise Hillary! Take this family's cash and rise.

$50 for HRC from me (5.00 / 2) (#56)
by Lena on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:09:14 PM EST

on the morrow!

I think that tonight resulted in a stalemate. As BTD noted in his post above, the 2 contests tonight just showed that Barack can't get the demographics he needs to win a national election. Moreover, for whatever reason, huge numbers of HRC supporters will never vote for him. To me, he just doesn't address the meat-and-potatoes issues like she does. Healthcare is the real deal breaker for me.

Next week will put HRC back in the limelight.


$50 here, but I was overdue after PA. (5.00 / 2) (#69)
by suisser on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:16:49 PM EST

Small price to pay after repeated weep-outs as this non-crier cried her eyes out at the prospect of HRC not being CiC.

Just MAD at the msm for this mess, they are sooooooooo loathsome!


Stay strong, Hillary! (5.00 / 2) (#14)
by mg7505 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:44:50 PM EST

We need to win the White House!

Link to Obama's "tiebreaker" comments (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by FoxholeAtheist on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:44:51 PM EST

Link to Obama's "tiebreaker" comments.

actually (1.00 / 1) (#32)
by CanadianDem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:51:33 PM EST

it says 'could be' the tiebreaker not that it would be the tiebreaker, c'mon.


WORM away (5.00 / 5) (#33)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:52:36 PM EST

he said it he has to live with it.


Let me explain further (5.00 / 1) (#41)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:54:50 PM EST

Because I've realized the younguns are being taught logic anymore.
If she gets PA, and he gets NC, than IN "could be the tie breaker." She got PA, he got NC, so IN is the tie breaker.


: Indiana isn't done (none / 0) (#64)
by waldenpond on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:13:10 PM EST

yet. They are only tens of thousands of votes apart and Gary is favorable to Obama. That's why no one is calling it yet. The Clinton campaign must be waiting on pins and needles.

She's not quitting (5.00 / 3) (#36)
by Militarytracy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:53:21 PM EST

she says NOW ONTO...........

I don't want her to quit - I was just hoping (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Anne on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:00:26 PM EST

she would have a real tailwind coming out of tonight - and I think her subdued affect reflects her disappointment, too.

Now, she's starting to get some of the fight back into her remarks - good to hear.

She is such a class act - Obama cannot hold a candle to her.


I wonder if she's (5.00 / 2) (#55)
by waldenpond on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:08:24 PM EST

subdued because of what's going on with Gary. If it tips Obama over the top in IN, I think Obama's superdeez can use the opportunity to come out. She gets momentum back with a win next week, but in the meantime, she'll have to listen to a lot of whining from the media. I'll be watching a lot of the SciFi channel if that happens. It would just be too annoying.


: I'm callling shenanigans right now (5.00 / 1) (#79)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:33:52 PM EST

if Gary tips it to Obama after those last minute "found" ballots -- call me a conspiracy theorist all you want.

She's way too good (5.00 / 4) (#46)
by Makarov on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:59:14 PM EST

a candidate to not be our nominee. I think she'll be an even better President.

I can't see her losing in Denver, and I think that's her path now.

Keep on (5.00 / 1) (#52)
by Emma on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:05:43 PM EST

fighting, Hillary!

For some reason, I feel that the Edwardses aren't (5.00 / 1) (#76)
by DeborahNC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:29:43 PM EST

too happy about the state of the race. I wish so much that they would campaign for Hillary. Or, at least, donate some cash.

John has to know that Obama won't really follow through on his pledge to make poverty part of his platform. And it's clear that he won't advocate for UHC.

It's so obvious that Obama will not advocate for the poort; heck, he won't even advocate for working class families. Oh, I forgot, they're not really part of the party anyway. Donna Brazile already banished them!

The Writing May be on the Wall (5.00 / 1) (#83)
by Jane in CA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:39:14 PM EST

According to ABC news, Clinton is scheduled to meet with the superdelegates tomorrow. My heart is heavy because I do not believe it will be a positive experience for her.

I can't imagine that many of SDs have the courage or the conviction to unite behind the woman who is clearly the best candidate for the job.

She seems so sad and subdued (4.66 / 3) (#18)
by Anne on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:45:16 PM EST

and Chelsea and Bill look wrung out.

She has so much grace and intelligence, so much compassion and connection to real people. How can people not see how badly we need someone like her in the WH?

I just do not get it.

: The Democrats do not wan to win. (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by MarkL on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:46:43 PM EST

This is the best opportunity in my lifetime for a Democratic President----the best since 1932 probably---and the Dems are going to throw it away.

: They saw how badly we needed (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by mg7505 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:47:41 PM EST

George Bush in 2004. And now they see how badly we need Obama.

: I thought she was (5.00 / 1) (#86)
by Jeralyn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:42:53 PM EST

energized and looked graat, as did Chelsea. Bill was a little sunburned but I had a completely different reaction than you.

I think there is some sadness (4.00 / 1) (#7)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:41:53 PM EST

she is putting on a brave face though.

Yeah, she doesn't look happy. (none / 0) (#11)
by andgarden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:44:08 PM EST

: I think you are right, it is probably over (none / 0) (#16)
by bjorn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:45:00 PM EST

Well, what a brief (3.00 / 2) (#6)
by CCinNC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:41:41 PM EST

statement of congratulations. Let's see more graciousness.

She's going to make me cry, damn it. (3.00 / 1) (#29)
by Anne on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:50:13 PM EST

She's already looking ahead to campaigning for Obama, and that's killing me.

You spoke too soon (5.00 / 2) (#44)
by angie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:57:30 PM EST

she called for MI & FL to be counted -- she ain't going anywhere.


: No, I knew she was going to say all the (5.00 / 1) (#62)
by Anne on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:12:03 PM EST

things she said - about counting FLorida and Michigan, and going on to the next group of states - it's just that over and over, I hear her talk about her willingness to work her heart out so Democrats can take the WH, and it kills me that she - of the two of them - is the only one who can see that all of this is bigger than any candidate.
She loves her country. She believes to her core in the values that make us Democrats. She cares about the lives of the people she wants to serve. How people can still say that she is doing this for herself is beyond my ability to comprehend.
I guess I'm just bummed - there's only so much of this rollercoaster I can take before I start feeling a little sick, ya know?

I was ok... (none / 0) (#50)
by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:04:39 PM EST

...till Bill bearhugged her after she finished, which made me lose it.


Well, the logical conclusion (3.00 / 1) (#60)
by lilburro on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:11:32 PM EST

of the Obama v Clinton electoral map is playing out. WV is a maybe for Clinton, a no for Obama. Hence: Toobin and Brazile argue the Dems don't need the white working class anymore. This is the development I find most alarming - the ideologial...i...zation?? of the electoral map. So, though we continue to say it's in the economic self interest of working class whites to vote Dem, we now refuse to claim they're in our party, and seem begrudging that they can even join("well FINALLY you get it"). This is exactly the kind of creative class BS BTD, BDB and others have warned about. Now it's mainstreamed. I feel personally dismayed and repulsed by our Dem leaders' rejection of the working class. How can we reject the people whose self interests we claim to serve? It's just ridiculous. If this is the Nov. drumbeat I may just have to find another place to party.

I do hope she and Edwards... (none / 0) (#54)
by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:08:19 PM EST

...press for UHC to be part of the official party platform in Denver, even if she doesn't win the nomination.

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