If TeamObama is encouraging this and media and Dem insiders are participating, this is a fraud being committed on voters in general and Dem supporters in particular.

If networks (public airwaves) as well as cable news are along for the ride, it's a criminal use of public resources and someone on Team Clinton should lodge a formal complaint. (Translated into free time and/or dollars, It could constitute a campaign contribution.)

It is not the news organizations role to exhort the DNC to change their rules.

Seriously, Democrats got a lot of credibility for Florida, election 2000 and they just have blow it all away basically proving they are almost worst than the GOP in terms of having a fair primary season.

Blathering heads can say what they will - lie and spin and pretend MI and FL don't exist and say WV and Kentucky mean "nothing" and talk about "the math" until they turn purple - Hill's gonna take this - all the way to the White House!

Whenever I see Obama represented in shorthand as BO, it just makes me think "body odor."

Sorry!  I know, it's immature, but that's what pops in there.

Listening to people here make the case, I have come to believe that some accommodation needs to be given to these two states, for several reasons.  I believe that everyone in this race is coming to that same conclusion, it's just a question of finding an acceptable formula.

Seating them as is doesn't work.  Obama and Edwards removed their names acting in accordance with the DNC ruling and they surely would have won some of them had the ruling not been made.  Saying "Too bad, you blew it" is just going to mollify Clinton supporters and exacerbate Obama ones, and makes it look as if Clinton is stealing the nomination.  That won't heal the rift.  A revote wouldn't have worked unless you redo the GOP primary as well, as there's no way to know how many Dems voted in the GOP primary because of the declared meaninglessness of their own primary.

Clinton should, and I think will, get the majority of delegates from both states.  (They should probably be given half their delegates back, as seems the customary penalty for this.)  It's just a question of how many Obama will be awarded.  But to say he gets none is just as bad a solution as giving the states nothing at all.

Seriously.

Hillary needs to be strongly encouraged by her supporters to stay in the race until August.

Obama is unelectable.

"monumentally stupid of the Obama campaign."

Is an apt description of the Obama campaign.  The campaign focused solely on using scorched earth tactics and have for that reason made a massive strategic blunder.

They've handed the Clinton campaign a winning hand giving her the moral high ground: Let's count all the votes trumps da roolz and makes Obama look small.  Everyone knows that 2.3 million people voted and will look askance at any attempt by Obama to win on a technicality.

A penalty which seemed unduly harsh will be seen by many people as a childish reaction to holding a primary early.  Most people could care less when primaries are held. The fact that his opponent handily won both contests will make Obama seem a very poor sport, a manipulator of dubious character.

Even dumber is to claim victory on a night when you've been shellacked in a state reporting its returns by late evening. It makes him look like an arrogant fool who's trying to pull a fast one while insulting everyone's intelligence.

But the Obama campaign sees the ruling as their ticket.  They can't see what the public sees.

Swoosh HQ's in Portland but the Goddess herself might reward the real fighter running the full race instead of the cheater litigating his way to a win.

I'm interested to see whether Oregon still has any problematic uppity women kicking around. I seem to recall meeting a few when I lived on the Left Coast.

 "CNN, along with NBC, at the behest of the Barack Obama campaign, will pretend Florida and Michigan do not exist."