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Posted on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:01:45 PM EST
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Tonight is my turn to talk about TV. I'll be watching the BSG finale tonight. Anybody else watching?

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    No way... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:06:49 PM EST
    ...Dollhouse is on tonight.  Echo ftw.

    That is why TIVO was invented (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:08:21 PM EST


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    I'm a ludite... (none / 0) (#4)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:10:21 PM EST
    ...dial-up, no TIVO, no HDTV.  Heck, I've still got a VHS recorder.  

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    Dollhouse (none / 0) (#5)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:15:04 PM EST
    Is on the internet. Although, I think that you have to wait for the latest episodes. I have seen six episodes so far.

    BTW- I do not think luddites have computers, tvs, or vhs.  You are just a bit behind the tech curve. I am sure that if you ever need to you will get tivo.

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    Impossible to watch... (none / 0) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:22:34 PM EST
    ...much of anything on dial-up.  And I certainly want to see Eliza on the largest screen I can.

    Yes, I am certainly not an early adaptor.  That Iowa upbringing probably has something to do with that--"my old TV works just fine, why do I need a new one?".

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    Ha. (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:24:32 PM EST


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    BTW, do you have a digital camera? (none / 0) (#45)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:20:36 PM EST
    I just got my first but am convinced my Olympus film camera produced better photos.

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    Oh yeah... (none / 0) (#47)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:34:22 PM EST
    ...I've got a big honkin' one that records on floppy discs (which hold about 8 pics) and a new(ish) compact pocket Casio one.

    Like vinyl for audio, there is something to be said for film.  Warmth, clarity, definition and charactor...

    Digital is nice for its ease of use and storage, but it can be lacking.  

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    vinyl = (none / 0) (#49)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:13:24 PM EST
    scratchy and needle noise.

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    Yep... (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:23:18 PM EST
    ...that's were the warmth and charactor comes from.  My ear much prefers it to the clinical, over-processed, sterile sound that is digital.

    Real music is made by imperfect humans and vinyl is a perfect reflection of that imperfection.

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    there is no real pure form of any music (none / 0) (#53)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:33:24 PM EST
    FVor example, some say acoustic instruments and music are more "natural" and "pure" than electrical instruments and music. Show me the tree where acoustic instruments grow. I'd like to pick a few. It's all some form of technology, except the human voice.

    There is nothing inherently sterile about digital audio in itself. It's all what you put in front of the mic. Neither is warmth and character a result of scratchy sounding vinyl and needle noise. The warmth and character comes from the music itself, not the medium.

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    You could argue that... (none / 0) (#60)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 11:36:26 PM EST
    ...the human voice is indeed a result of some pretty incredible electronic technology.  

    We could argue the tonal attributes of a 1953 Blonde 5-string Kay (high C) stand-up bass (made from a tree) versus a '62 Fender Vintage Precision Bass pushed through an Ampeg amp. Or the difference between the crisp, sharp sound a (birch) Sonor S Classix snare and a piece of hard plastic connected to a bunch of electroids.

    We can argue about a lot, but in the end its all subjective.  I prefer different sounds and tones and textures than you apparently.  C'est la vie.

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    Okay I was gonna leave it there (none / 0) (#68)
    by DFLer on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 09:30:49 AM EST
    but just want to add one thing hawkeye:

    While the voice has "mechanisms" it is not electronic...it is organic...that's the distinction I mean to make.

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    It is indeed an organic process. (none / 0) (#69)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 10:12:21 AM EST
    However, without the electrochemical circuitry and functioning of the nervous system, there is no ability to vocalize.  We may not be dependent on an external electrical source, but the human body is indeed very much an electonic machine.

    When you alter the human voice by running it through an electronic voice processor, it ceases to be organic in the "having properties associated with living organisms" sense of the word.  IMO, of course.

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    Well yeah, (none / 0) (#78)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 06:08:33 PM EST
    anytime you record or play vinyl or cds, it's the same thing

    You can look at it from either end. On the receiving end, no matter what the source, it's still vibrations on your eardrums.

    I love stand-up bass...AND P-bas..etcetc. My whole point in this discussion is that any good audio engineer can capture either sound, regardless of whether it a digital recording or not.

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    Can you even buy blank tapes anymore? (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:15:45 PM EST


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    yes (none / 0) (#7)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:16:44 PM EST


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    That's not going to last (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:23:48 PM EST
    Anything that you'd do with a VCR can be done better with something else, and ultimately at a better price.

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    of course not, but as long as people still have (none / 0) (#13)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:31:50 PM EST
    VCRs, they will still need tape.

    Incidentally, about two years ago, Ampex announced that they would no longer be manufacturing magnetic tape for recording, in all formats, especially the two inch format (used for 24-track analog recording machines)

    Well everyone who wanted that old technology glommed up the stock on hand, and many had dreams have making money selling old used de-guazed two inch tape from the closets.

    One year later, demand prompted them to start manufacturing that tape again.

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    Stockpiling tape sounds really stupid (none / 0) (#19)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:44:09 PM EST
    Just ask any preservationist.

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    Do you know how fast 2 inch tape gets used (none / 0) (#25)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:54:20 PM EST
    up on an analog recording project? Lots

    At 15 ips (inches per second), one reel can record thirty minutes. (At 30 ips, 15 minutes. (high budget)) Say you record more than one take per song. You end up with 2 to 3 songs per reel. Then you might want to make safety copies of the masters, as everytime you run the tapes, you lose oxides and fidelity. Etc. etc.

    A studio or analog artist would have stockpiled just to cover their current projects.

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    I can only imagine (none / 0) (#30)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:59:59 PM EST
    There's a reason why we've essentially solved the problem of tape. Though I'm sympathetic to the idea that digital recording just isn't the same. Film, for example, still beats the pants off of even the most advanced digital video, not just in terms of resolution, but color and range.

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    yes, but digital recording has come so far (none / 0) (#33)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:14:56 PM EST
    regarding sample rates and bits etc., that the claim that analog tape is somehow better is really bogus. In fact, many who record on tape then transfer to hard drive. Huh? And in the end it ends up on digital media.

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    The case for audio is better than video (none / 0) (#34)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:17:09 PM EST
    No digital video equipment that I'm aware of can beat the versatility of Super-35.

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    probably so, but aren't there some major (none / 0) (#35)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:27:12 PM EST
    filmmakers embracing the digital media?

    (btw , cost of 2 in analog tape also prohibitive at $250.00 to $300.00 a reel..ooops gotta go BSG is back on

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    Yes, slowly they are (none / 0) (#37)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:34:13 PM EST
    But there are different format considerations in video that don't arise in audio. Two issues present the most problems: 1) framerate differences around the world (24fps film can easily support PAL and NTSC framerates), and 2) resolution issues (You've got to be able to support everything from broadcast TV to projected film).

    Eventually, I think movie production will settle on the lowest common denominator, but I think there's still a smoothness and elegance that you lose going from film to digital.

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    SOund Recording (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:31:50 PM EST
    On VHS tapes are considered the poor man's DAT. Other than that you are probably right.

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    Interesting, but that actually makes some sense (none / 0) (#17)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:39:52 PM EST
    VHS supports matrixed Dolby Stereo (AKA Pro-Logic).

    But as your article notes, nobody would go out and buy such a setup today.

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    Sony told me... (none / 0) (#18)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:43:34 PM EST
    ...that the MiniDisc was the poor man's DAT.  And I was foolish enough to believe them.  

    Yep, got one of those too.  Not to mention a Sports cassette Walkman.  There's a reel-to-reel hiding in a closet somewhere too.  Someday I'm going to open a museum or make a fortune on teh e-bay.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#8)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:17:58 PM EST


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    A show on Fox? (none / 0) (#42)
    by Jen M on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:08:29 PM EST
    Call me when it has at least 22 eps on dvd, then I will consider watching it. (assuming it is still on the air that is)

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    I really enjoy this show (none / 0) (#61)
    by Amiss on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 11:38:29 PM EST
    and I had missed Damages the other nite and watched the re-run tonight. Boy, Damages and Dollhouse both have lots of twists and turns that you must pay attention to.

    I thoroughly enjoy them both.

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    My sister... (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 12:09:28 AM EST
    ...got me watching Burn Notice and was trying for Damages as well, but I haven't quite gotten into that.  

    I'm still trying to figure out all the plot twists from tonight's Dollhouse.  You do indeed have to pay close attention.

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    Definitely. (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:23:40 PM EST
    I don't want it to end.

    I have been cleaning cupboards (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:52:43 PM EST
    If anyone has every really messed with a woman who at some point began cleaning cupboards you know that this is a very dangerous time for the buttheads of this world.  So I'm cleaning cupboards, this is almost gone and needs to go in the trash....what are these doing here....my God here this is, I thought the dogs ate it.  Without a single doubt remaining suddenly a ton of bricks wipes out any denial I had left.  Wall Street is completely over with in any form that resembles what I have known in my lifetime.  Seriously folks, are you going to start investing for your retirement again there?  The only way any of us are going to be investing again there for our fragile old age is if there are dividends being paid out!  We already know what these guys do with our long term savings when they don't have to account for it on a daily facts of real life basis.  When do you think these yahoos are going to embrace paying out dividends again?  What are we trying so hard to save?  It's f*ckin over man.

    Cleaning cupboards on 2 hrs. (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:57:26 PM EST
    sleep?  Dangerous.  

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    No kidding, and Josh gave me his bug (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:00:43 PM EST
    so I'm about to head to the grocery store for must haves before total physical meltdown.  But I'm guessing I'm so physically vulnerable stark evil realities are right in my face.

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    Normally, cleaning closets and (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Anne on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:48:14 PM EST
    cupboards is what I do when I am feeling especially out of control - when I can bring order to something concrete like a closet or the pantry, it settles down the jangling stress.

    However...for the last two months of weekends, I have been emptying out my aunt's house in Virginia.  She has Alzheimer's and is in a nursing home - has been since April of last year - and her second husband (a real piece of work) died at the end of December.  We have to sell the house to have funds to pay for her care and our target date for listing is right after Easter.

    What a big job.  We finally seem to really be seeing progress, but for the longest time it seemed like we worked and worked and worked and it didn't look like we were getting anywhere.  Even now, though, it seems like there is still so much more to make decisions about.

    Tomorrow the Salvation Army truck is coming and they are getting a lot of stuff, which I hope will be able to help someone else.  My aunt was a long-time member of the local Salvation Army's Women's Auxiliary, so I feel like this is what she would want us to do.

    Tomorrow is also the day my older daughter and her husband are moving, so I am taking the day off from the Virginia end of things - my brother is going down to meet the truck and oversee the donation of goods and furniture - to help her out.

    Sunday, we are going down to haul home another load of stuff.  The real estate agents are arranging for a dumpster because we are finally at the stage where we can start pitching out the junk.

    All this and tax season, too.  Have to say that today I felt like I had hit a wall, but the good news is that I did not have to serve jury duty today - when I called in to see if I had to report, the recording said we were excused.  Thank goodness.

    I am so looking forward to getting weekends back - and something that resembles a life.

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    I am so sorry Anne (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Amiss on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 11:34:50 PM EST
    I hope for your sanity the madness will be over soon. For me cleaning out my Mom's house was so bittersweet. So many memories in the house I grew up in, most of the years it was just my Mother and myself as my brother was much older than myself and my father had died at a much too young age.

    Sending many good thoughts your way.

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    Oh, sympathies!! (none / 0) (#56)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 11:21:09 PM EST
    That's a truly terrible job to have to be responsible for.

    I had to do that when my mother died, clear out her 12-room big old house (which I'd been living in with her for the previous four years) stuffed to the gills with family mementoes and useful stuff all mixed in with vast amounts of hopeless old curtains, broken window shades, decades old financial and academic papers of my late father's, and the like.  Being Depression-era, she and my dad (who had passed 30 years before) were never willing to throw out a thing, just in case.

    I did not think I would be able to make it.  Got the house cleared out enough to put on the market, went through the agony of living in a house that's being shown, sold it.  But then had to go right back to work to sort out and dispose of the good and/or useful household stuff, what to keep, what to sell, what could be given away, what just had to go to the junk hauler, on and on and on.  All the while having to house hunt in another state for a place to live for myself and getting my own things packed up to move.

    The yard sale I had was a highlight because at least I got to see people's eyes light up at the sight of something they liked and were willing to pay a few bucks for and then carry away happily.  That felt a whole lot better than just dumping it with Goodwill.

    It's a horrible, miserable, high-stress, endless job, made all the worse because of the so vivid reminders of who the person was in their prime that's so much conveyed by their belongings and the things large and small they saved and cared for.

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    What a difficult undertaking... (none / 0) (#63)
    by DeborahNC on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 04:17:11 AM EST
    My father died on Christmas day of last year, and my sisters and I haven't cleared out his house yet.

    My sisters didn't want to sell the house right away; I think that they were hoping that one of the grandchildren might want to live in it.

    I really dread having to begin the clearing out process, because I found it highly stressful just making the funeral arrangements with my siblings.

    My father had Alzheimer's, but he died suddenly, apparently from a MI. The family had a wonderful Christmas eve together, and even though he had become somewhat frail, my Dad even danced with me that night. The memories of that night are bittersweet, but I feel fortunate to have had such touching moments with him before he passed.

    Anyway, I'm really dreading having to clear out his house. I just want to be able to accomplish it without an familial friction. (Big sigh...)

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    The picture you painted brought (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Anne on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 10:11:09 PM EST
    tears to my eyes - I'm so glad you had that moment with your dad.

    Neither of my dad's siblings had children, so we went through this 4 years ago when my uncle got sick and then died (my dad died 20 years ago).  While my aunt is still alive - even with the Alzheimer's she still has her sweet personality and an infectious laugh - going through all the things in her house still has that feeling of saying goodbye.  We've come across a lot of family-history kinds of things that she had been keeping since my grandparents died - I've learned some things about my grandfather I never knews.

    My brother and I are all the family my aunt has, but this is what families do for each other.  My aunt's second husband was a brilliant and selfish man whose idea of love was about control (I still will never forgive him for missing my father's funeral for a reason that was so lame it doesn't deserve mention here - I cannot imagine, to this day, how terrible my aunt must have felt that her husband cared more about something that involved making a few bucks than he did about being there to support her in her grief).

    One idea for dividing up your dad's things is to draw lots, and just take turns picking items that are important to each of you.  If a particular thing is important to all of you, agree to pass it around so everyone "has" it for some period of time.

    And encourage each other to remember that maintaining strong family ties is ultimately more important than "things" will ever be.

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    Anne, thanks for caring. I think family ties are (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by DeborahNC on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 08:26:32 AM EST
    so important also. It's great that your aunt can still enjoy a hearty laugh and has maintained a sweet disposition. I've heard several people say that they've had relatives who became cantankerous and aggressive as their Alzheimer's disease progressed. She must be very grateful to you for taking such good care of her possessions and handling her affairs when she was unable to do so. You bestowed her with an invaluable gift--your trustworthiness.

    Everything that you described about your aunt's second husband points to narcissism. Narcissitic personality disorder renders a person unable to consider the feelings of others, unless, of course, they're trying to manipulate the feelings of another person for their own gratification. You mentioned control--that is a key component of the disorder; narcissists must be in control. Otherwise, they feel that their lives are coming apart. It's extremely difficult to have a positive relationship with a narcissist.

    I actually think that control was at the heart of the problem when making arrangements for my Dad's funeral. When life seems out of control, such as a sudden death of a loved one, some people will start trying to control everything.

    I appeciate your suggestion about dividing his stuff, but for the most part the estate is settled, and one of my sisters has already taken quite a few items from his house. There are just a few things I'd like to have--not valuable, just sentimental. I found a copy of a hospital bill after  Dad spent 6 weeks at Duke Hospital when he was about eight or nine years old (pneumonia and diptheria).

    He was born in 1924, and the itemized bill was fascinating. The total was less than $100.00, and the telephone calls cost nearly as much as the medicine. The pharmaceutical companies would NEVER let that happen today!

    Thanks for indulging my catharsis. It has been a relief to write about it. This is the first time, with you and gyrfalcon, that I've mentioned it online.

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    Oh, gosh (none / 0) (#72)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 07:14:47 PM EST
    How incredibly poignant.  It's so wonderful, though, that you had that last wonderful warm experience with your dad right at the end.

    I was lucky in that at least I didn't have to cope with family fights over any of it.  My sister lives in another state and came up to help for a few weeks, but was otherwise content to leave it to my judgment.

    I hope you can work out some division of labor and basic agreement about "stuff" ahead of time.  It won't hold throughout the process, but at least it's a starting point.

    If you expect a fight over possessions, pick one or two items that really mean a lot to you, stand firm on them, and let your sibs fight over everything else.

    Best of luck.  So often, it seems all the internal family stresses people have managed to live with for decades seem to come right out to the fore in these situations.  Don't hestitate, btw, to seek counseling if the process gets difficult.  I think it can really help to keep things in perspective so you don't end up drowning in stress and anger at the behavior of your own family members.

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    Thanks so much for your concern and (none / 0) (#75)
    by DeborahNC on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 06:31:10 AM EST
    advice. I think that you are absolutely right about negative feelings and resentments held just beneath the surface with some family members that often erupt during periods of crisis.

    Also, if it's a death in a family, particularly if it's a family matriarch or patriarch, without that person's presence, some people feel no compunction about "letting loose" with their true feelings while other family members are grieving. It's really sad, but it happens more than we realize.

    I won't hesitate to get some counseling as I sort through my feelings about the loss I've experienced with my Dad's death, and the loss I feel over the fragile relationship I'm experiencing with one of my sisters. BTW, I was professionally trained as a therapist but no longer do that kind of work. (Rather, I don't get paid for that work anymore.) So, I do know the value of having an empathetic professional assist me if I need it.

    I'm so very grateful for the opportunity to have shared such warm, pleasant, and intimate moments with him on the last day we had together.

    After the festivities at my sister's house, my son and I stopped by my father's house before driving home. My son wanted his PaPa to try on some clothes that we'd gotten him for Christmas. We'd bought some designer jeans and a sporty striped shirt, so my son wanted to make sure he was going to wear them on Christmas day. He looked pretty sharp in them, even though he was 84 yrs. old.

    Wow, you had a lot to do getting your Mother's home settled with very little assistance. I hope things are become calmer and more sane now, although you still probably have your moments, as we all do.

    I love yard sales. I've gotten several treasures (to me)when I've gone to sales in upscale neighborhoods and some unique and interesting items from all types of neighborhoods. Nothing I've gotten was truly valuable, but it was still fun!

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    PTSD (none / 0) (#77)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:04:26 AM EST
    Those six months -- coming on top of four years of presiding over my mother's decline -- were by far the most sustained, unrelieved period of stress and anxiety I've ever gone through. A couple of times I had to just stop and curl up into a fetal position and hide for a few days or a week at a time. I find I do have bouts of something akin to post-traumatic stress disorder still as a result of it all.

    As for family, I haven't personally had this, but I've seen a number of situations where some family members can simply be toxic for each other and really need to stay as far apart as possible.  That's hard to do, but there's no law that says just because you're related to someone means you have to find a way to deal with them.  Sometimes you just can't and the price of constantly trying and failing is psychically unsustainable.

    It does help somewhat to keep in mind that everybody thinks they're doing the right thing, and that what seems like really awful behavior feels fully rational and justified to the person committing it. Remembering that can at least lead to acceptance, if not really forgiveness or real emotional reconciliation.

    I know I'll have you in my thoughts going through this.  Do use the open threads to vent and let us know how you're doing on it from time to time.


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    She is so fortunate to have you guys (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 07:26:18 AM EST
    on her team :)

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    I've been cleaning closets! And I've got some (none / 0) (#41)
    by Angel on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:55:03 PM EST
    sort of allergy.  Can't breathe, can't sleep, can't function because I can't do these two things.  Been taking pills but they offer only temporary relief.  So the closets need cleaning....  Had a garage sale with my mother a few weeks ago and made some seriouo cash so I thought I'd try that angle again to have a little spending money.  I've got lots of clothes I don't need, don't wear, that don't fit, etc., etc.  So why not sell them when I need the cash and when others need to have something but can't afford to spend a lot.  I hate what the mofos have done to our "savings."  And to top that off we were/are heavily invested in real estate.  Laugh you a$$es off at us, but that was our ticket.  

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    I read recently (none / 0) (#64)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 07:23:47 AM EST
    that closets are notorious for inflaming allergies, something about tiny particles of cloth creating a sort of dust and most of us don't vacuum our closets as often as we do the rest of the house.

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    I started cleaning the closets after my allergies (none / 0) (#66)
    by Angel on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 08:05:59 AM EST
    went into overdrive!  But you are correct in that closets are probably not the best place to be if you suffer.  We have hardwood and tile in the entire house with the exception of the closets!  And my puppies love to roll around in those....  Closet cleaning is therapy for me.  

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    Absolutely (none / 0) (#1)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:04:15 PM EST
    G-thon's been on all day, hard to get work done.

    No, but should you have any (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:32:12 PM EST
    personal contacts amongst the stars, be sure to report.

    Forgive me but BSG? What show is it? (none / 0) (#16)
    by coast on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:39:38 PM EST


    BattleStar Galltica (none / 0) (#20)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:45:20 PM EST
    on the sci fi network

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    sorry "Galactica" (none / 0) (#22)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:45:48 PM EST


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    Thanks (none / 0) (#26)
    by coast on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:54:31 PM EST
    I watched the original series but not this one.  I'll watch my bracket get destoryed further tonight.

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    I loved the original too (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:56:03 PM EST
    But that was what fourth grade was for :)

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    More better and more expansive (none / 0) (#28)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:57:07 PM EST
    than the original series. prodution values of a film, really. Fantastic stories, great acting (Edward Olmos, for example). Check out the site.

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    I'll check it out.. (none / 0) (#36)
    by coast on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:33:18 PM EST
    Any ideas of bringing back Buck Rogers?

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    Buck Rogers ruled (none / 0) (#40)
    by TheRealFrank on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:51:24 PM EST
    Disco SciFi at its best.


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    Erin Gray was smokin' ...even for this nine (none / 0) (#44)
    by coast on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:19:42 PM EST
    year old.

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    in the new BSG (none / 0) (#46)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:22:34 PM EST
    Starbuck is a woman, and one tough cookie.

    what was that newer Buck Rogers show? that was pretty good. theme song by Queen.


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    lol (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:06:39 PM EST
    I thought it was another hockey team or something to do with March Madness..

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    I think Battle Star Galatica (none / 0) (#21)
    by Saul on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:45:39 PM EST


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    Yep. Got a box of tissues handy. :( (none / 0) (#23)
    by kempis on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 07:47:46 PM EST


    With bank failures today (none / 0) (#38)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:35:16 PM EST
    at three:

    TeamBank, Paola, KS
    Colorado National Bank, Colorado Springs, CO
    FirstCity Bank, Stockbridge, GA

    I went the escapist tv route tonight with wall to wall basketball. The Gators rolled over the Canes from the opening tip. Next up for the Gators... Penn State for the right to go to MSG for the Faux Final Four.

    BSG WOW (none / 0) (#39)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 08:39:43 PM EST
    WOW....the invasion of the Cylon colony world. WOW what an amazing set of scenes. Did I say WOW? Wow

    I was WOWWING with you (none / 0) (#70)
    by kempis on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 11:28:33 AM EST
    Great conclusion to a fascinating series.

    I'm not a huge sci-fi fan, and I was hooked by the storylines and the questions the series grappled with, questions that really do mirror contemporary concerns about terrorism and culture and enemies--and of course the perennial questions about loyalties and love.

    Loved it.

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    "The Loon," a poem (none / 0) (#43)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 09:11:43 PM EST
    by James Tate, brought to you by Garrison Keillor, NPR, "A Writer's Almanac":

    The Loon

    Think of this early Monday morning!

    listen to this (none / 0) (#50)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:17:51 PM EST
    loon call

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    Isn't that an amazing sound! (none / 0) (#57)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 11:22:22 PM EST
    I've been lucky enough to hear it in the wild a couple of times, and it's just unearthly and unbelievable, the essence of wildness.

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    yes it is (none / 0) (#67)
    by DFLer on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 09:27:00 AM EST
    and if you recognize it, you will hear it often used in soundtracks or the like, because it sounds so exotic. I often wonder, being literally minded, how did that loon get into the jungle?

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    Hah! (none / 0) (#73)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 07:18:44 PM EST
    The mess movies make of bird sounds generally is incredibly irritating if you know what you're listening to, the classic example being the scream of the Red-Tailed Hawk used with a shot of a Bald Eagle (which doesn't scream, it just sort of peeps loudly and in a very undignified way).

    My favorite misplaced loon was in a movie scene supposed to be taking place near a lake in open country in Michigan in early winter.  Good grief.

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    Sorry Braugh.... but BSG (none / 0) (#52)
    by Exeter on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:31:27 PM EST
    does not ring a bell... yeah I googled it and, yes, I have hear that BSG is a cool show. I'll watch it if you get into Mad Men.  K?

    ya (none / 0) (#71)
    by connecticut yankee on Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 04:12:22 PM EST
    I watched it.  It wasnt great. The last 3-4 episodes were a bit weak as well.

    Overall it's still a great show.  Can't compete with the Wire or Deadwood though (imo).

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