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Edward M. Kennedy, 1932-2009

Senator Edward Moore Kennedy, the Lion of the Senate, will be laid to rest today in Arlington National Cemetery, near the resting places of his brothers, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Robert Francis Kennedy.

The funeral mass, in Boston (Roxbury actually), at the Basilica of Our Lady Of Perpetual Help, and the burial, some hours after the funeral mass, will be broadcast. All the living ex-Presidents will be attending (correction, due to health issues, President George Herbert Walker Bush was unable to attend.)

President Barack Obama will be delivering the eulogy. susang has the prepared text.

If you are not near a television, you can watch on cnn.com or I am sure other internet outlets.

This is an Open Thread to discuss these events.

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    George H.W. Bush Is Not There (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:29:11 AM EST
    CNN reports he is unable to manage the trip from Kennebunkport, suggesting his health is poor, because he would be there if possible.

    His VP, Quayle, is there...

    Thanks (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:31:02 AM EST
    I will correct.

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    Interesting (none / 0) (#4)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:30:05 AM EST
    Bill and Hillary sitting directly behind (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:34:20 AM EST
    the Obamas, Next to W.  and, I believe, Laura.

    Second row for past presidents (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:42:00 AM EST
    I think Rosalynn Carter looks really good.

    Just saw Al Gore. Looks like he is having a hard time keeping it together.

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    CNN finally being respectfully quiet (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:46:51 AM EST


    I can't stand the (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by brodie on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:48:01 AM EST
    pompous blowhard traditional network anchors, and I'm boycotting Wolf on CNN for his "McCain could be the next Ted Kennedy" stupid remarks, so I'm punishing myself with the chatter of Keith and Chris and Co on Msnbc.  Gene Robinson and Pitchfork Pat also on hand.

    Dunno what happened to Rachel Maddow this a.m.  You'd think this network would want to feature her on this major broadcast event.

    watch one of the networks instead of cable (none / 0) (#22)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:49:45 AM EST
    they are more refined and it's in HD

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    Vicki is clearly in pain (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:48:50 AM EST


    so sad (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:49:11 AM EST
    to watch them carry the casket out of the hearse

    Wasn't it? (none / 0) (#23)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:51:22 AM EST
    The whole thing is sad. (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by inclusiveheart on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:58:04 AM EST
    I have little to say about the Senator's passing beyond that.

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    Jean, Ethel, Vicki... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:57:19 AM EST
    Very moving moment.

    We've all lost a brother today (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:03:41 AM EST
    When I was growing up, every Catholic in America felt like the Kennedys were distant, or not so distant, cousins, especially if you were Irish.  My Dad kept a '60 campaign poster on a wall in the garage forever after that, a fellow naval officer, they fought and won WWTT together, and then fought the political fight for Democracy with a capital D.  Bobby Kennedy was a turning point to convince even this "LBJ man" to eventually oppose the Vietnam war.  Teddy could never live up to the hagiography of his older brothers but he continued to fight the good fight to the end.  We've all lost a brother today.

    How True (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:29:23 AM EST
    I was talking on the phone with my 86 yr old mom this morning. She asked me a question and as I was answering her, she interrupted and said: "Oh, there's Al Gore."

    I was a little taken aback, wondering if she was maybe hallucinating. (And what an odd figure to summon up for delusion!) Then I realized she was watching the funeral on mute.

    I suggested we talk later and she watch the funeral and she was very apologetic (no need, mom). She kept explaining to me: "I'm Irish Catholic. This is important to me."

    "I know, Mom. I'm Irish (formerly) Catholic too."  But there's definitely a generational distinction. To many of her generation, the Kennedys were/are so important and represent something so momentous.

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    Well put, both of you -- and (5.00 / 5) (#83)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:31:35 AM EST
    your mom.  Yes, I had the same Irish Catholic upbringing with Kennedys almost as honorary members of the clan -- and in addition to parental influence, the nuns sanctified them for us in school year after year.  We prayed for the candidate in the campaign, we prayed for the president, we prayed for him and his widow and John-John and Caroline as if they were cousins when school (and the country) came to a stop in the funeral week, we prayed for the next candidate, we prayed for him and his widow and . . . you get the drift.  At school and at home, where my grandma sent us Kennedy holy cards, it was 24/7 Kennedy time for Irish Catholics.

    I always say that you can take the girl out of the church, as I did, but you can't really take the church out of the girl.  I had to watch the wake last night, I have to watch the funeral today, or I would feel the need to go to confession again.  Bless me, fadduh, for I have sinned and watched the wrong channel. . . .

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    from the Gospel reading (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:21:22 AM EST
    a favorite Catholic song was written and sung at church. The lyrics:

         Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers;
        That you do unto me.

        When I was hungry, you gave me to eat;
        When I was thirsty, you gave me to drink.
        Now enter into the home of My Father.

        Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers;
        That you do unto me.

        When I was homeless, you opened your door;
        When I was naked, you gave me your coat.
        Now enter into the home of My Father.

        Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers;
        That you do unto me.

        When I was weary, you helped me find rest.
        When I was anxious, you calmed all my fears.
        Now enter into the home of My Father.

        Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers
        That you do unto me.

    It is based of Matthew 25:31-46, which was the gospel reading:

    "31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

     34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

     37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

     40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

     41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

     44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

     45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

     46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.""

    Is this McMillan (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:22:21 AM EST
    talking now?  I like him.

    Moving prayers of a public life (5.00 / 5) (#49)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41:58 AM EST
    Nice how they are using Senator Kennedy's own words in the prayers of intercession, making his public life a praryer of action.

    Yo-Yo Ma (5.00 / 5) (#53)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:47:37 AM EST
    Amazing how Yo-Yo Ma can play the cello and sound like a duet of two players in opposing harmonies.

    Panis Angelicus? (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:03:49 AM EST
    Text, roughly, in English?

    (Placido is in wonderful voice, wonderfully dignified singing)

    Angelic Bread (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:52 AM EST
    Bread of Angels,
    made the bread of men;
    The Bread of heaven
    puts an end to all symbols:
    A thing wonderful!
    The Lord becomes our food:
    poor, a servant, and humble.
    We beseech Thee,
    Godhead One in Three
    That Thou wilt visit us,
    as we worship Thee,
    lead us through Thy ways,
    We who wish to reach the light
    in which Thou dwellest.
    Amen.


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    Thank you (none / 0) (#65)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:11:26 AM EST
    Yoyo Mah as well (none / 0) (#63)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:53 AM EST
    Did Sen. Kennedy specify who would provide (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:11:23 AM EST
    the music at his funeral mass?  Placido Domingo, Yo Yo Ma, Tanglewood Festival Chorus, and Susan Graham.  

    I'm slightly puzzled (none / 0) (#70)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:15:25 AM EST
    myself by the chorus.  Far as I know, none of the Kennedys (other than Joan way back when with the Pops) ever had any relationship to either the BSO or the chorus, unless that's something that happened in the last few years.  It's a superb orchestra chorus, of course, but not at all an obvious or best musical choice for a funeral mass.

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    Gov. Patrick told a lengthy story (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:21:16 AM EST
    at the wake yesterday about Sen. Kennedy and his wife going to Tanglewood for a program of musical theatre.  Followed by a dinner party at Patrick's home, to which Kennedy invited the pianist for the Boston Pops so everyone could sing musical comedy songs after dinner w/accompaniment.

    Parent
    Ah. That must be it. (none / 0) (#86)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:41:14 AM EST
    I didn't see Patrick, so I missed the story.  Thanks.

    Parent
    Teddy Jr. (5.00 / 3) (#72)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:18:01 AM EST
    On Teddy's energy-- "Our family vacations left us all injured and exhausted."

    Teddy Jr. is good (5.00 / 5) (#74)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:20:41 AM EST


    Yes (5.00 / 3) (#76)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:21:41 AM EST
    VERY impressive speaker.

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    Wonderful...really wonderful (5.00 / 5) (#78)
    by oldpro on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:25:31 AM EST
    tribute to his father.

    So personal and heartfelt.

    Lessons he taught..."how to like Republicans!"

    Personal relationships and honoring differences...

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    Just wonderful (5.00 / 6) (#79)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:25:34 AM EST
    Incredibly moving.

    The story of the sled . . .

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    I'm a mess (none / 0) (#81)
    by kempis on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:28:01 AM EST
    So moving.

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    Me too (none / 0) (#82)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:29:07 AM EST
    just in awe of Teddy Jr.'s eulogy (5.00 / 3) (#80)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:27:17 AM EST
    so beautiful and moving

    Teddy Jr. is clearly the highlight of this (5.00 / 3) (#87)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:42:47 AM EST
    Outshining everyone else, including the President.

    I'm trying to figure out (none / 0) (#90)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:48:28 AM EST
    who the president (or his speech writers) think the audience for his speech is.

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    Maybe that's it (5.00 / 3) (#93)
    by caseyOR on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:50:18 AM EST
    It sounds more like a speech than the eulogy of a friend.

    Parent
    Yup (5.00 / 2) (#94)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:51:43 AM EST
    Count me as almost horrifically discouraged.

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    I thought Obama's eulogy (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Spamlet on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:58:24 AM EST
    was dignified, affectionate, and moving. YMMV.

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    Yes, it was good (5.00 / 3) (#107)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:02:53 PM EST
    It's not an oratorical contest.  The family will always have the most moving and tender memories.  Teddy with his in no way handicapped son is such a fine example of love and driving purpose that conquors hardship.  What a fine father and uncle he must have been for a family with so many tragedies.

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    The country (none / 0) (#92)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:50:06 AM EST
    Obama was good (5.00 / 6) (#95)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:52:41 AM EST
    but I think Teddy, Jr. was the standout.

    All in all, a beautiful service. I'm grateful to have learned more about him over the past few days. May he rest in peace.

    No question (5.00 / 5) (#98)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:55:11 AM EST
    I had tears on a few occasions today. But Teddy, Jr. has me forming puddles.

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    Ah, the celebrant's brogue (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:59:12 AM EST
    sounds just like my great-grandma's voice from the grave.  She spoke Gaelic, too, until the very day that she died -- and made it to morning mass every day until almost the end of her long life, too.

    Obviously, I must hie me to Boston to hear that again!

    Thank you Teddy for everything (5.00 / 3) (#105)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:02:14 PM EST
    For the days when I felt nobody heard me or cared, always to discover you at the podium caring.  I grieve your loss.

    "America the Beautiful" - how perfect (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by kempis on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:02:38 PM EST
    It fits Teddy's spirit.

    Now I have to postpone my plans to run errands--at least until my eyes and nose stop being red and swollen.

    What a beautiful, tremendously moving ceremony.

    Once again, we cry with the Kennedys and brush ourselves off and carry on--with even more resolve.

    So with a mixture of grief and gratitude, bless them, and bless Teddy.

    "...and crown thy good (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by oldpro on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:06:57 PM EST
    with brotherhood...from sea to shining sea."

    If only.

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    the cable news pundits (none / 0) (#1)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:27:57 AM EST
    are awful. I'm muting it until the service starts. Is there any network just bringing the event without the banal chatter?

    C-Span n/t (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:30:56 AM EST
    I Like C-Span (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:45:00 AM EST
    for things like this because you hear the sounds from the church, and it feels more like you're sitting there yourself.

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    at least (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:31:31 AM EST
    Brian Williams on NBC is speaking in a lower tone. His female sidekick is yakking way too much.

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    Mrs. Alan Greenspan (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:35:32 AM EST
    aka Andrea Mitchell.

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    who has demonstrated (none / 0) (#54)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:56:56 AM EST
    Absolutely No Sense of Propriety, following this death.

    Shameful.

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    Sad that it's raining (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:29:29 AM EST
    Maria Shriver seems sad.

    Emotional overload (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by mmc9431 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:34:35 AM EST
    Dealing with two family deaths coming so close together has got to be really draining. I'm sure they all have a lot of private memories to deal with right now.

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    so true...two huges losses so close together. (none / 0) (#30)
    by kempis on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:18:43 AM EST
    Losing Eunice just a couple of weeks ago and now Teddy has to be doubly devastating. I feel so for them.

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    Think of the rain... (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by kdog on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:41:55 AM EST
    as the splashing of all those raised and clinking glasses up in heaven at Ted's welcome home party, mixed with tears of joy.

     

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    you made me cry, kdog. (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:58:10 AM EST
    what a wonderful image.

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    She's always the most emotional (none / 0) (#27)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09:28 AM EST
    but, she also did just bury her mom.

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    John King channels Justice Breyer (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:36:52 AM EST
    singing Ted's praises.

    The Carters are siting alone for now (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:40:13 AM EST


    Aren't They (none / 0) (#15)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:43:00 AM EST
    at the end of the first pew next to the Bidens?

    I did think they looked like they were apart from everyone though, like in exile almost.

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    the hearse and family are arriving (none / 0) (#16)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:44:36 AM EST
    10:43 am. I have it on mute to block out the chatter.

    Sad... Ethel n/t (none / 0) (#24)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 09:54:22 AM EST


    the justice will flourish piece (none / 0) (#28)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:11:53 AM EST
    is very moving

    The text of the Psalm (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:16:02 AM EST
        R.  Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
        O God, with your judgment endow the king,
        and with your justice, the king's son;
        He shall govern your people with justice
        and your afflicted ones with judgment.
        R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
        The mountains shall yield peace for the people,
        and the hills justice.
        He shall defend the afflicted among the people,
        save the children of the poor.
        R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
        Justice shall flower in his days,
        and profound peace, till the moon be no more.
        May he rule from sea to sea,
        and from the River to the ends of the earth.
        R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
        May his name be blessed forever;
        as long as the sun his name shall remain.
        In him shall all the tribes of the earth be blessed;
        all the nations shall proclaim his happiness.
        R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.

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    Thanks for posting that (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:21:39 AM EST
    My childhood is flashing before my eyes (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:27:16 AM EST
    The readings remind me of my second parish priest (the first was an old style conservative pre-John XXIII type), Father Frank O'Laughlin, the first full fledged socialist I really knew. A wonderful man. My parish ran him out of town. That when I stopped going to church. He went on to bigger and more important things - Father Frank O'Laughlin:

    One of the many programs inspired by the work of Father Frank O'Laughlin at Holy Cross Parish in Indiantown, Fla., InDios has long since spun off as an independent, profit-seeking (and sometimes even profit-making) organization.

    Fr. O'Laughlin, as detailed in the Reinvesting in America report on the Hope Rural School, was an innovative, caring pastor who came to Indiantown some 25 years ago, where he found an achingly poor community of impoverished farm workers and migrant citrus pickers -- largely of Mexican heritage with a growing corps of Guatemalan immigrants -- eking out a bare existence with little money, terrible living conditions, and virtually no support.

    Over the years, he encouraged the development of a number of model programs aimed at bringing the region's migrants pride and self-reliance, including El Centro, a multi-purpose service center; low-cost housing initiatives; pre-school child-development programs; and the Hope Rural School, an effort to break the cycle of poverty by offering the next generation a chance at a high-quality education in a county where no one in the public schools even spoke Spanish.

    However, Fr. O'Laughlin (who has since moved on to a parish in Boynton Beach, Fla.) would willingly share credit for one of the community's most effective programs: InDios, a play on the Spanish words for "Indian" -- honoring the Guatemalan/Mayan heritage of many participants -- and "In God" ("In Dios").

    Sr. Teresa, born in Bolivia and a Dominican sister, recalls that she was looking for an assignment back in 1983 when Fr. O'Laughlin called her with a challenge: The Hope Rural School was doing a great job with the children who stayed through the school year, but many of them were losing out when their parents moved north with the "migrant stream," pulling the youngsters out of school when the harvest beckoned. If they could come up with a program that would create work for at least one parent, Father reasoned, that parent could stay home in Indiantown, earning a living and making a permanent home for the youngsters while the other parent followed the migrant stream.

    O'Laughlin thought perhaps that a weaving cooperative would be just right, but it didn't take Sr. Teresa long to discover that the Indiantown Guatemalans -- unlike some of their compatriots from other regions back home -- didn't know anything about weaving. "They weren't weavers, they were mostly smugglers," she said with a laugh. So she spent a year working alongside the Guatemalan families in the fields and groves, trying to find out what kind of cooperative would work. "They said, 'sewing,' 'sewing,' 'sewing,' she said, laughing again. "I didn't want to do sewing, but here we are."

    Indeed. Although the sewing cooperative got off to a slow start until the women found their bearings, things took off quickly after a local priest asked them to sew him a set of clerical shirts. The demand for this product proved so high that they quickly had all the work they could handle. With the help of a Boston advertising firm that donated its resources to make a slick, professional brochure, InDios now reaches Lutheran, Episcopalian and Catholic clergy in all 50 states with 5,000 pieces of mail-order advertising per month -- enough to generate $8,000 to $10,000 in revenue per month, which is sufficient to pay the cooperative's nine members a piecework rate of $8 to $15 per shirt, at a rate of one shirt every one to two hours. Members pay a token $20 per month as shares in the co-op, and participate in all of its work and management.

    Some months, InDios breaks even. Some months, it doesn't. When sales fall below costs, Sr. Teresa says, "I pray." But so far, it has managed to remain self-supporting, despite its situation as a profit-making enterprise that seeks no charitable funding.

    InDios is making a big difference in the lives of a few women. Meanwhile, though, freed from its daily management because the co-op's own members have taken over, Sr. Teresa has moved on to an impressive variety of other initiatives under the umbrella of InDios Inc., a 501(c)3 non-profit related to, but separate from, the cooperative. In this venture, she has qualified as a real-estate agent (but declined to seek a state license, which would require her to charge commissions that she does not want to charge), and works with Indiantown's Guatemalan immigrants to help them qualify for decent housing and learn to keep and maintain it.

    She has also inspired the organization of the Indiantown Neighborhood Association, a group of some 80 Guatemalan and Mexican immigrant homeowners who are wiping out negative stereotypes of Latino immigrants in the community by cleaning up and brightening their neighborhood with sweat and pride.

    Finally, in the face of welfare "reform," Sr. Teresa is helping scores of immigrants seek naturalization; she works two evenings a week, one-on-one with applicants to ensure that the detailed paperwork that the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service requires will pass muster.



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    If all religious and clergy (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:37:29 AM EST
    followed this kind of path, imagine what the world would be like.  (I'd even go to church myself. :-) )

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    The mention of Luke's Gospel of the Poor (5.00 / 3) (#47)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:39:33 AM EST
    Father Frank lived it.

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    The '50s social justice Catholicism (5.00 / 5) (#84)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:35:23 AM EST
    was so far from what the church has become, such an influence on so many of us that is hard to explain to my younger siblings raised in a different church.

    I'm told by a friend, a priest, who still serves in that tradition, in a Hispanic parish, that the social justice tradition that continued in Mexico and the Caribbean is the hope of the church today in this country, owing to the great growth in the Hispanic population.  I pray, no irony intended, that is true.  For all its sins, no irony intended again, it was a strong and good church in many ways then.

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    Too few in the ring fighting for social justice (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:37:19 AM EST
    I welcome the Catholic Church.

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    Childhood in Church (none / 0) (#43)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:36:58 AM EST
    I was amazed that I remember the lyrics of the opening hymn and without even thinking about it started singing it as I watched them bringing the casket in.

    "Infinite thy vast domain,
    Everlasting is thy reign."

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    Indeed (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:44:03 AM EST
    Childhood came blasting into my head.

    It was emotional.

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    All so familiar (none / 0) (#60)
    by caseyOR on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:04:35 AM EST
    I sang at many Requiem Masses (in the choir) when I was a kid. Unfortunately, my parish did not have Placido Domingo. Astonishingly, I still know the words.

    Catholic High Mass is such a beautiful ceremony.

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    Ave Maria... (none / 0) (#67)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:13:05 AM EST
    Oh, boy, talk bout childhood coming rushing back (with chills down the spine)

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    Psalm 72 (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:16:38 AM EST
    Please (none / 0) (#40)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:31:31 AM EST
    Let's not encourage this debasement of this thread.

    those comments have been deleted (none / 0) (#45)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:37:47 AM EST
    Thank you (none / 0) (#46)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:38:37 AM EST
    Grandson Max (none / 0) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:40:59 AM EST
    clarifies things as well as neices and nephews :)  How beautiful

    They say Teddy planned this (none / 0) (#50)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:42:01 AM EST
    Smart.

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    I just saw little Teddy (none / 0) (#51)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:43:08 AM EST
    I'm really trying to not cry but not too successful :)

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    Victoria Reggie Kennedy (none / 0) (#55)
    by samsguy18 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 10:57:58 AM EST
    What a gracious woman. I am so impressed by her.

    Others in attendance (none / 0) (#58)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:02:33 AM EST
    I haven't seen: Joan Kennedy and Jack Nicholson (not together)

    Joan...Sitting in the middle of the family section (none / 0) (#61)
    by samsguy18 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:31 AM EST


    The Latin never leaves you (none / 0) (#66)
    by caseyOR on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:12:04 AM EST
    I'm old enough that I learned the Mass in latin. It is all coming back to me.

    And Ave Maria is such a beautiful hymn. This woman, can't recall her name, is singing it wonderfully.

    Ditto. And a high mass in a basilica (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:43:08 AM EST
    cannot be beat for beautiful ritual, even without some of the best musicians in the world that we are seeing and hearing today.

    There is a basilica in my town that recently has been restored, and it is breathtaking to see again -- as with so many churches in my very ethnic and Catholic town to this day -- the evidence of immigrant faith (and immigrant fundraising), when they were so poor but gave all that they could to raise rafters to the sky to give glory to the God that they believed had brought them here.  It is a site of amazing Christmas Eve masses in Latin that are worth the trip back in time, as I find that I  remember all the Latin responses and reflexively genuflect right on cue!

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    Note: no Elton John. Yeah. (none / 0) (#119)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:22:09 PM EST
    Susan Graham. (none / 0) (#68)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:13:05 AM EST
    the most beautiful "Ave Maria" (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by kempis on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:15:16 AM EST
    I've ever heard. Deeply moving and obviously heartfelt.

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    The Packers? (none / 0) (#73)
    by caseyOR on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:18:02 AM EST
    Okay, I knew Teddy was first string at Harvard, but never knew he was a Green Bay pick out of college. A man of many talents.

    Not too bad for a shanty Irish (5.00 / 3) (#91)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:48:46 AM EST
    PFC. Oh, my, his like will not be seen again. His connections to the common person, his caring. My goodness, I'm crying again.

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    Priceless (none / 0) (#77)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:23:56 AM EST
    He even taught me some of life's harder lesson, such as how to like Republicans!

    Totally o/t, but Michelle Obama (none / 0) (#89)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:47:56 AM EST
    looks beautiful -- and I have wondered sometimes at her fashion choices.  The shorter haircut is great, more off her face so that it really showcases her eyes.  And she ought to wear black more often, as understatement really suits her better than some outfits that distract from focusing on that face.

    I was just thinking the same (5.00 / 3) (#97)
    by oldpro on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:54:39 AM EST
    about Hillary...and thinking, too, of how much she has lived through and, like Teddy, survived with humor and spirit.

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    Final blessing for a sailor (none / 0) (#96)
    by robrecht on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:52:59 AM EST
    May the wind be always at your back
    The sun shine warm upon your face


    The rain fall soft upon your fields (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:56:59 AM EST
    And may God hold you in the palm of his hand.

    My favorite prayer.:-)

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    And 'tis a soft rain falling (5.00 / 2) (#104)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:02:04 PM EST
    for the funeral, fittingly.  I always find it jarring to come out of a church and a funeral mass to a sunny day.  "The vurrry hivvens are a-weeping for him," I can hear my great-grandma say.

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    As my gan would say, (5.00 / 2) (#109)
    by jeffinalabama on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:05:00 PM EST
    "A fine soft day for a funeral."

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    When did people start (none / 0) (#99)
    by Spamlet on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:56:58 AM EST
    applauding at funerals? First time I saw this was at Reagan's marathon event, but only in the California segment, not earlier in the day at the National Cathedral. At the time, I dismissed the applause as an unseemly L.A. phenomenon, as I also did at Michael Jackson's funeral. But at Ted Kennedy's funeral too? What gives?

    Weddings, too. I can't help but think (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:11:06 PM EST
    that it's a Protestant thing -- that's where I first witnessed applause in church, to my horror.:-)

    Note to self:  Amend my will to remind my descendants that the wake is the place for political behaviors, from speechifying to handshaking to putting down the drink to put those hands together in applause.  

    But the funeral service?  Put those hands together only in prayer.  I'm gonna need a lot of prayers.

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    Oh, come now. Don't immed. (none / 0) (#115)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14:58 PM EST
    blame this on "the Protestants"!!!

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    It's that Irish Catholic reflex again (5.00 / 2) (#117)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:20:18 PM EST
    and my famine-Irish ancestors whispering in my ear.  Ne'er Forget An Gorta Mor! they say, and the Prots that put our people out on the roads and into the hedges and then onto the coffin ships. . . .  I was raised on this history, from morning to noon to night.  

    And now I'm a Prot.  But I suspect that those ghosts think I'm just infiltrating from within to teach them some manners in church. :-)

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    I know. I grew up on Luther's side in (none / 0) (#122)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:23:56 PM EST
    the midwest.  The great divide.

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    So you were allowed to sing (none / 0) (#123)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 01:14:25 PM EST
    "Away in the Manger."  It was banned for us.  So I still feel a bit guilty when warbling it today.  

    Sorta like sneaking outa the pews on a nice Saturday before completing my confessional prayers.  I know that the great scoresheet in the sky has got another black mark next to my name.

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    Why didn't the Pope approve of (none / 0) (#124)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 01:38:03 PM EST
    "Away in a Manger"?  

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    The pope didn't matter, nor did Wiki (5.00 / 2) (#126)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 01:54:55 PM EST
    to the nuns I had.  They said Luther wrote the song, so we didn't sing it.  

    I have spent the rest of my life, since those days, in discovering how many ahistorical statements and outright untruths were dispensed by the nuns I had . . . not to mention, to quote them, their "sins by omission."  In part, it was owing to the baby boom, when schools like mine and orders like the one that ruled my school were bringing out from the kitchen and other backrooms of convents just about anybody in a habit and veil to put them in classrooms.    

    I later realized, when I went for an Ed. degree, that probably none of the nuns I had ever had trained for teaching.  Some didn't even have college, some had two-year nursing degrees, etc.  It left gaping holes in my education, but on the other hand, it also meant that a lot of us were left to learn on our own, and that paid off later.

    But most were experts in command of a classroom.  I did learn that from them, and it came in handy!

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    Interesting As to the Nuns (none / 0) (#127)
    by daring grace on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 03:03:53 PM EST
    I, a boomer too, a few years behind you, was taught in grammar school by nuns.

    Mine were Sisters of St. Joseph and spent their summers taking courses and honing their skills.

    I was too young to critique the quality of their teaching until I escaped to the public HS.

    Oh, my. I had some great secular teachers, some decent ones and some really, really inferior ones who made the worst teacher from the religious order look like a masterful scholar.

    But then a couple of the nuns could certainly surpass any of the HS teachers in terms of...shall we say eccentricity and off-the-wall-ness. And that's saying something because I had some real characters in the front of some of my high school classrooms...

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    Oh, yes. (none / 0) (#128)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 04:09:30 PM EST
    I still had to endure Catholic high school, but I had a better order of nuns then, and it helped.  It did mean the trade-off you note though -- fewer nuns who were characters, like so many I had in grade school.  (Still, there was the ancient nun relegated to teaching religion in high school, when she enjoyed regaling us will tales of coathanger abortions that brought down the wrath of God upon them, i.e., He killed them.  We even had to do research papers and presentations on those closet-organizer tools.)

    It's no wonder, though, that some of those grade-schools nuns were characters; one even had a nervous breakdown in front of us.  Consider that they were handed classes of 60! and even more, and most handled them somehow.  I thought of that so often when my children's grade-school teachers complained of classes that topped 20.  (Of course, I backed them about small classes, because I had seen the effect of larger ones -- but some of their complaints were not relevant, as I also well knew from being a baby boomer.)

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    See Wiki. (none / 0) (#125)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 01:40:40 PM EST
    Never have I heard applause (none / 0) (#108)
    by oldpro on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:04:50 PM EST
    before in a Catholic church...but then I haven't attended anything but funerals in over 60 years.

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    I have heard applause at many (none / 0) (#116)
    by BobTinKY on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:16:48 PM EST
    Irish Catholic funerals in my family.

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    Very conservative church here (none / 0) (#121)
    by oldpro on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:23:22 PM EST
    in my small hometown.  Had a hard time giving up the Latin ... among other things.

    All my family, Irish Catholics, both sides.  Lots of funerals.  No applause here...yet...and doubt there will be any at mine which will not be in a church.

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    I also wondered about the applause. (none / 0) (#110)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:05:53 PM EST
    Must be a fairly new phenom.

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    Final blessing (none / 0) (#101)
    by samsguy18 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 11:57:36 AM EST
    I always tear up

    Very emotional, especially hearing (none / 0) (#112)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:08:38 PM EST
    Sen. Kennedy really did make every effort to be a father to his fatherless nieces and nephews.  

    But, when I remember the mass and cortege for JFK--that was overwhelming.  

    While we were watching I asked (5.00 / 3) (#120)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:22:30 PM EST
    out loud if it was humbling to be sitting there as a past president or a sitting president and realize that this country probably will not celebrate or grieve you as much.  My husband is not sure about that, but I feel pretty certain that with almost 50 years of swinging for the fences every single day.....it will be very hard to cherish a one or two term President as much.

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    C-Span immed. segues into (none / 0) (#114)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:13:51 PM EST
    a health care town hall.  R-Alaska.   Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

    CNN repeating HBO special on EMK (none / 0) (#118)
    by Cream City on Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 12:21:13 PM EST
    tonight, Teddy Kennedy's own voice telling his story.  It's pretty good.

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