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Sunday Morning Open Thread: Happy Fathers Day!

Happy Fathers Day!

World Cup -- Paraguay leads Slovakia 1-0 at the 70th minute. Paraguay wins 2-0. New Zealand ties Italy 1-1. Brazil faces the Ivory Coast this afternoon.

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    Sweden's egalitarian wedding (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by kgoudy on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 08:59:47 AM EST
    there is a fairy tale in Sweden where the princess married a boy from the back woods against the wishes of royalty. Interestingly, the Swedish people view it as another instance of the non-importance of royalty in their country.

    I heard last night on the tube (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 11:30:58 AM EST
    that they are chapped at how much it cost.

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    $3 million taxpayer (none / 0) (#36)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 12:56:27 PM EST
    And he wasn't just "from the back woods" - he owns a bunch of gyms.  Oddly enough, the news keeps saying he was just "her personal trainer" - uh, yeah - he trained her, but he was the owner of the gym!

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    Just wanted to breeze in (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 11:29:48 AM EST
    and say Happy Father's Day to all those Dads out there.  Thanks for all you do!  We love you

    Thanks (none / 0) (#22)
    by lentinel on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 04:24:11 PM EST
    I try.

    Parent
    My father died 32 years ago. (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by observed on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 12:21:12 PM EST
    He was born in 1922, and was fortunate to become diabetic in 1928, not long after insulin was discovered, and died in 1978. Because insulin was new, they had no idea how long he would live. He told me he was so shocked to live to 20 he didn't know what to do. He went to Harvard for 1 year but couldn't afford a second. He worked on some electronics projects in WWII; IIRC correctly he worked on sonar or radar when it was still secret. He became a mettalurgist and engineer, founding his own company in 1960, 1 year before I was born. Running his own company definitely took away from his time with the children, but he still managed to teach me to play chess when I was 4 and taught me some piano as well.
    An upside of his having a business with international customers (airlines) was that I met people from all over the world when I grew up.

    I was born in 1961, 10 years after his doctor told him he shouldn't have any more kids because he wouldn't live to see 40. His health was pretty good until around 1970 (actually I take that back, he actually broke his back in the early 1950's from seizures during an insulin reaction; he was an extremely brittle diabetic) ; he had eye problems and peripheral neuropathy. In 1976, while a guest of the Soviet Academy of Sciences  in Russia, he sustained a foot injury which he did not feel and did not notice until he saw a hole his his heel; the injury which was in bad shape when he returned to Seattle. Several months later he had his first leg amputated. His last two years, when I was 15 and 16, he was in increasingly bad condition, and extremely depressed---his marriage with my mother was always strange and rocky, and she had no bedside manner at all.
    When he died, I was 17, and had only begun to find out what things I could accomplish.
    He was so ill and depressed that he wasn't even interested in my successes, which bothered me enormously then.
    He died in Oct. 1978.

    I can't remember celebrating a father's day in his later years, although I suppose we did.
    He was always a tremendous fighter, which served him well when he was maintaining his health; he was totally unable to come to terms with his failing health.

    I try sometimes to imagine what he would be like if he were alive today, and what our relationship would be like. I can't do it. Our relationship was poor when I was in my teens and needed him, and he needed me too.
    He was a difficult man, who I'm told now was highly manic depressive (I'm sure that's true, as my brother is severely bipolar). He could be extremely cruel, as is often the case with bipolar people (so I'm told), but he was also very kind at times. His interests ranged from science and music to foreign languages and history---a high point in his life was a visit to  the main historical museum in Leningrad.

    I think if he had lived, he would have changed, because although he struggled with many problems, he strived like a titan to overcome them.
    I wish he had been around to see me complete my education. I was the first person to get a Ph.D---at least in recent generations.
    There are many fond memories from when I was a younger child, but it's hard for me to come up with a pleasant memory of him after I was about 10. I know now that I was just too different for him to relate to me as he did with my older brother. Neither my brother or I look terribly like him; fortunely (IMO) we have the rounder, fuller faces and less pointed noses of my mother's side of the family. I'd say his family's look was very patrician.

    Rest in peace, Dad.


    I, too (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by BackFromOhio on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 01:59:48 PM EST
    lost my father when I was 17.  Loss at that age, without all the other things you describe, is quite painful.  Not having the chance to have an adult relationship with a parent -- good, bad or in between -- is a loss by itself.  Sorry for yours. Peace.

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    Thank you. (none / 0) (#15)
    by observed on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 02:36:55 PM EST
    I had a very difficult relationship with my mother for many years, but now we get along pretty well. Fortunately, she is in astounding good health for 88, and seems to enjoy her life quite a bit.

    Parent
    A fine tribute to your Dad, (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 03:27:18 PM EST
    and to you in the moving memories.

    Parent
    Well (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 03:28:04 PM EST
    Let's hope that their strategy is repulsive to the voters, but I have my doubts.

    Most americans are not so big on conservation when it results in having to change their lifestyle regarding energy use.

    IOW voters get defensive when their gas consumption and gas guzzling car lust gets messed with. The GOP is banking that voters will see the Democrats as trying to take their freedoms away.

    I hope that the anti oil sentiment lasts, increases and changes the way Americans think about energy, I doubt it, though. People like their comforts, and are not willing to sacrifice under most situations.

    Oops (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by lentinel on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 04:19:42 PM EST
    It turns out, by the way, that oil rigs today generally don't cause spills.  They are technologically very advanced.
     - Barack Obama - April 2, 2010.

    Now we know what "generally" means.

    Welllllll (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 04:39:03 PM EST
    what proportion of the oil rigs just in the Gulf of Mexico have had significant spills?

    The problem with Obama's statement, which is perfectly accurate, is that "generally" isn't good enough.  Just like broken-down, primitive Russian nuclear reactors don't "generally" explode.

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    Your right. The BP spill (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 05:54:25 PM EST
    doesn't change the proportion much, and, too, it will depend on the definition of what significant is.  Just as in the part of the president's Oval Office speech when he was discussing the capture of oil: "in the coming weeks and days, these efforts should capture up to 90 percent of the oil leaking out of the well".  The statement is less definitive than suggested by a first bounce--actually a fairly equivocal one to make, what with the 'up to', should, and in the future wording.  

    Parent
    Or, Ken Salazar (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 05:27:14 PM EST
    announcing the Obama Administration's OCS strategy, March 3l, 2010, Andrews Air Base (via anchorage Daily News)." We are bringing much needed order and certainty to our nation's offshore drilling program.  This order and certainty will come from our commitment to ensuring that development occurs in the right place and in the right way; (and) "that we are making decisions based on sound information and sound science."  .."But, I also make these decisions knowing our responsibility to preserve the land, water and wildlife." Now, who provided all that sound information and sound science? and, are they still on our payroll?  

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    KIWIS SCORE!! (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jen M on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 09:10:48 AM EST
    1 up over Italy!

    (for now)

    AAAND (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jen M on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 09:30:29 AM EST
    Italy ties on a penalty kick.

    Parent
    one to one (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jen M on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 10:52:24 AM EST
    And New Zealand fans are going insane with joy

    Parent
    E-A-S-Y for England.....? (none / 0) (#4)
    by magster on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 10:33:28 AM EST
    A friend of mine posted this link on his Facebook page. Pretty funny.

    Too dumb for the This Week Round Table? (none / 0) (#5)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 10:46:56 AM EST
    meet Greta Van Susteran talknodng about the Arizona immigration law.

    Are you objecting to something (none / 0) (#23)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 04:33:49 PM EST
    she actually said on This Week or just characterizing her as "too dumb" unheard?

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    I heard it (none / 0) (#29)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 11:01:08 PM EST
    Sorry, transcript was not available yet this morning. Go to the last page of the transcript for the AZ immigration discussion. She confounded the panel with logic  like this, and that panel has seen a whole lot of nonsense over the years:
    If you listen to what Secretary of State Clinton said, she didn't say anything about racial profiling. What she said was is federal immigration policy essentially usurp state. So the question is, does this, you know, is this federal immigration policy? A court will determine that. And I go back and forth on this. I've gone back to the Constitution, and I read that immigration isn't in the Constitution, but it talks about invasion of forces, and at moment I'll think, yes, this does try to usurp the states -- the federal government, so it will be unconstitutional. Other times, I think, no, this is simply, you know, enforcement of the law. It says illegal immigrants, and we don't give passes for people who shoplift, so do we give passes for people violating this law? So I go back and forth on this.

    Then goes on to say that AZ needs to get the message out there that they are not racial profiling so the boycotts will go away. Like they just have a PR problem. The dialogue with Michelle Martin is good.

    I'll give her credit for livening up the discussion anyway.  

    Parent

    I was a bit harsh (none / 0) (#30)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 11:17:29 PM EST
    But she talks so fast and just seemed to jangle everyones nerves.

    Looking forward to Christiane Amanpour.

    Parent

    Yes, harsh, and not fair (none / 0) (#33)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 08:19:20 AM EST
    She does talk fast and she can be nerve-jangling when she's on a tear.  But she's certainly not "dumb."

    I heard that part of the program, and she actually has a point.  The law itself bars racial profiling, and she's right that essentially any law on the books can be enforced in a biased way through racial profiling.

    I think it's a loathesome law, motivated by bias, but you can't challenge the law itself on that basis, only the implementation after it inevitably (I think) works out that way.

    So the DoJ isn't even going to try to challenge it on that basis, but on the usurpation of federal power.  She says she goes back and forth on whether that's likely to succeed, and that seems a perfectly reasonable reaction of a (now non-practicing) lawyer, especially one who was never a constitutional attorney.

    I didn't think she had anything wildly insightful to say, but then when was the last time anybody said anything particularly insightful on that program?

    But dumb?

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    The bar on that program is set low enough (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 09:42:34 AM EST
    She is not a dumb person, but I should have clarified that I thought her word storm was below even the minimal standards of that show. I watch so few news shows these days that it did stand out to me as being a particularly low level of insight from what is usually on that show. It is actually one of the better ones, for all its faults.

    She admits herself that the DOJ has not challenged anything yet. All she is going on is the one statement by Clinton.

    And this, regarding the racial profiling:

    I think they should make the statement because I think they let it sit out there, because I think that's why there are boycotts of the state, because that -- I think that, because everyone thinks that this is racial profiling. That's horrible, that's a very bad thing to do. We even have the Constitution talking about the importance of equal rights for people, and there should be no statute that has racial profiling, none. But they don't speak to it. And instead, they sort of let that issue sort of sit out there and -- and percolate out there.

    Well, I'm sorry. I will have to cross another show off my list if 'AZ is just misunderstood' is going to be the level of discussion.

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    She's certainly convinced herself (none / 0) (#35)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 11:36:01 AM EST
    that the purpose of the Arizona statute is to get the attention of the feds to take their "desperate" situation seriously and do what they're supposed to do.

    That's what those nice Arizonans like Jan Brewer keep telling her, and after all, they're so nice, how could they possibly be xenophobic bigots (or just garden-variety pols pandering happily to xenophobic bigots)?

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    Gaza Blockade Easing? (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47:04 AM EST
    "A meeting will be held soon, and we hope that a binding decision will be taken then," the prime minister's office said, explaining that the reason for the delay is "the need for continued contact with allies within the international community in order to gain support for the liberalization plan."

    This despite the fact that most of the international community has already voiced support for the plan, following a campaign launched by Blair, who drafted the plan with Netanyahu.

    The international community has welcomed Israel's announcement, stating Israel's intention to ease its land blockade of the Gaza Strip, with the White House saying the announcement was a "step in the right direction."

    Haaretz

    Hmmmm... (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 12:23:23 PM EST
    (CNN) -- South African Dr. Sonnet Ehlers was on call one night four decades ago when a devastated rape victim walked in. Her eyes were lifeless; she was like a breathing corpse.
    "She looked at me and said, 'If only had teeth down there,'" recalled Ehlers, who was a 20-year-old medical researcher at the time. "I promised her I'd do something to help people like her one day."

    Forty years later, Rape-aXe was born.

    Ehlers is distributing the female condoms in the various South African cities where the World Cup soccer games are taking place.
    The woman inserts the latex condom like a tampon. Jagged rows of teeth-like hooks line its inside and attach on a man's pen!s during penetration, Ehlers said.
    Once it lodges, only a doctor can remove it -- a procedure Ehlers hopes will be done with authorities on standby to make an arrest.

    "It hurts, he cannot pee and walk when it's on," she said. "If he tries to remove it, it will clasp even tighter... however, it doesn't break the skin, and there's no danger of fluid exposure."

    CNN

    Well, as heinous a crime rape is, in the wrong hands, this device can be used as an assault weapon. Double edged sword, in a manner of speaking. And, considering rape is a crime of violence, this device is likely to increase the rage of a rapist, which seems like a really bad idea, imo.


    You're probably right about the anger (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Joan in VA on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 01:49:55 PM EST
    but it may be worth that risk to introduce a chance to flee the situation entirely. His immediate attention will be to his ensnared member, not his victim, so that gives her some chance she didn't have otherwise.

    Just the existence of such a device may provide some deterrence so that's worthwhile even if no woman ever uses it because of the fear it will make a bad situation worse.

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    That's (none / 0) (#21)
    by lentinel on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 04:22:28 PM EST
    what I was thinking.

    If this were to be publicized, a potential attacker might be reluctant to take a chance.

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    Women could walk around (none / 0) (#25)
    by itscookin on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 05:12:11 PM EST
    wearing buttons that say, "This Vagina Has Teeth" like the stickers they give you to put up on your house when you buy a security system.

    Parent
    I, too, was thinking of t-shirts (none / 0) (#32)
    by Cream City on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 03:51:07 AM EST
    maybe saying "Piranha Vagina"!

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    Does God have a Twitter account? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Joan in VA on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 02:07:53 PM EST
    Palin tweets for divine intervention in Gulf crisis, day of prayer. Yeah, that'll work. "And, God sent down a mighty cap, and, verily, the fishes and creatures of the sea were restored, and the fisherman were able to slay them for gold as they always had done, the tools of His people brought forth the liquid treasures of the Earth once more and all was well in the land of His Red States."

    World Cup (none / 0) (#27)
    by Molly Pitcher on Sun Jun 20, 2010 at 05:35:33 PM EST
    from the UK:
    Oxo have just released a new red and white striped oxo cube to celebrate  England's world cup campaign....its called the laughing stock

    NYT profile of Gloria Allred (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 01:22:26 AM EST
    (Life and Style Section):  The Avenger