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Election Results: Open Thread 1

Final Results Update for tonight: Trump takes Alaska and Hillary is 75,000 votes behind in Michigan. John Podesta just spoke at the Javits Center and said Hillary will not speak tonight. "She is not done yet. ... Let's get the votes counted and bring this home," he added. CBS is reporting Pennsylvania is still in play despite his significant lead. 1% of the vote has yet to be counted. In Wisconsin, there are a lot of absentee ballots.

Update: The AP calls Pennsylvania for Trump. Can CBS please switch to James Corden and the Late Late Show now?

Update: Pennsylvania has 97% of the votes in with Trump ahead now by 76,000 votes. CBS says there's still enough votes outstanding in remaining states to prevent it from calling the winner. It also mentioned absentee votes. It seems we need a Dewey Defeats Truman moment for Hillary to win. With that, I think I'll go to sleep -- the opera ain't over till the fat lady sings, and I have no intention of listening to pundits discuss why Trump appears to have won.

Republicans keep control of the Senate.

Update: CBS says Trump is leading in all 5 battleground states left, albeit by small numbers. The popular vote so far is 55,441,249 for Trump and 54,194,607 for Hillary. That's less than a million votes. [More...]

Update: Pennsylvania is fading for Hillary. I don't think there are enough votes left to make up the difference.. 97% of the vote is in and she's 35,000 votes behind.

Without Pennsylvania, she would have to win every electoral vote left except three. In other words, she could only afford to lose Alaska. She'd need to win Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, MN, Maine, NH.

Update: Sheriff Joe Arpaio has lost his re-election bid in Phoenix.

Update: Pennsylvania is still tight - 36,000 votes apart. Trump has won Lebanon County and Northhampton(as did Romney before him). Of the counties left with less than 100% reporting, Hillary is ahead in Lehigh and Bucks. I'm not sure there's 35,000 votes left in them though. In Minnesota, Hillary is ahead by 70,000 votes. In Wisconsin, Milwaukee and Madison still have votes out and she's ahead in both. But she's also 75,000 votes behind statewide.

Chuck Todd at NBC says Hillary doesn't have the numbers with the outstanding votes.

Update: Hillary wins Nevada. Still out: Minnesota, where Hillary is leading. She's also leading in Maine. New Hampshire is a dead heat.

Update: Pennsylvania: 100% of vote now in in Lackawana and Centre counties in PA and Hillary won both. Trump took Erie. He's winning in Northhampton. She's ahead in Lehigh and Monroe. He leads overall by 2,500 votes. Only Lebanon county is out.

Nevada is outstanding and leading towards Clinton. How has Trump not won Arizona yet.

Update: CBS expects to call the race in 30 minutes. It sounds like it thinks Trump will win. I don't see it. I think Nevada and Pennsylvania will go to Hillary. In Nevada, I think Clark and Washoe County alone are enough to give her the state. Here's the 2012 results. Here are the 2016 results so far. The counties in red are tiny counties.

Update: With 97% of the Philadelphia vote in, Hillary is ahead 82.4% to Trump's 15.5%. There aren't that many counties left to count, and she's leading in six of them and has 7,000 more votes. Only two are unreported and two leaning towards Trump.

Update: The Detroit Free Press calls Michigan for Hillary. . It says Trump cannot win without either Michigan or Pennsylvania, even with wins in Ohio and Florida.

California passes recreational marijuana!

Update: Trump wins Florida. Wisconsin and Iowa are leaning his way. Pennsylvania, Michigan and Nevada still not called.

Update: North Carolina called for Trump.

Update: Hillary has won California and Hawaii and she now has the lead in electoral votes, 190 to 172. Florida is likely going to go to Trump. So is North Carolina.

Update: Good news, Colorado voters passed end of life options (aka physician-assisted suicide) (Proposition 106.) We don't have to move to Oregon.

Update: Hillary takes Colorado, 48% to 44%. Amazingly, on the local news, people are still in line voting. In Michigan, very little of Detroit has been counted. Nevada and Pennsylvania would seal it for her. Chuck Todd just said Broward and Miami Dade may have votes outstanding. The Florida SOS says Browaard is 100% in and it's 66.03% for Hillary. Miami Dade has just a few precincts out and it's 63.64% for Hillary.

Update: Hillary has won Virginia. CBS just called Ohio for Trump.

Update: Boulder, CO is partially in, it went 73% for Hillary so far. Totals for Colorado: Hillary ahead 48.44% to Trump's 44.01%. That's a 4.5% lead, doesn't seem like a toss-up to me. New turnout numbers:

  • All Registered Voters: 3,763,219
  • Ballots Cast: 1,728,433
  • Voter Turnout: 45.93%

Update: Hillary is now up 17,000 votes in Virginia with Fairfax county reporting. Trump has won Missouri (no surprise there.)

Update: CBS' results in Florida are different than the Secretary of State. CBS says Trump is 2% ahead, the SOS says he is 49.15% and Hillary is at 47.72%. CBS says Colorado is a toss-up and all mail-in state. That doesn't mean you can't vote in person in Colorado, and lines were enormous everywhere. The system broke down twice and judicial intervention was sought to keep the polls open later. The judge said no. The local news showed the huge waiting lines to vote. CBS, get your facts straight. I'm changing channels. (Added: before I changed the channel, one anchor asked another, "How do you explain this?" about some result. The answer, "Uh, I don't know." How helpful.

Update: How little do I trust the mainstream media? I'm taking all my election results in battleground states from the official election results published by the states' secretary of state/election divisions. They have much more detailed information. I think the media is milking the lack of reported precincts to make it seem like more of a contest. So far, the state results have been predictable.

Memo to CBS' female anchor: No, if you're a Clinton supporter, you're not taking an anxiety pill. You're patiently waiting for results to come in, confident it will all work out. Either stop milking it or go back to working at cable news networks. We don't care about your opinion, you have no idea how we feel, we just want results.

Update: Could this be right? Voter turnout in Colorado was only 25%. (No, it's not right. The number changes, it's now at 38%.) Hillary is presently ahead, but turnout was higher in Republican counties. Registered Voters: 3,759,671; Ballots Cast: 919,837; Voter Turnout: 24.47%. Hillary has 75% of the vote in Denver, which had a 40% turnout. Boulder isn't in yet.

Update: Only 10% of the Cleveland precincts have reported so far. (Michigan report deleted, the SOS office was reporting March primary results.)

Update: North Carolina results are here. Hillary Clinton has won New York, Trump has taken Kansas and Nebraska, North Dakota and Wyoming (no surprises there).

The media wants to know why Trump is doing okay with women in Florida. Easy answer: Anti-immigrant sentiment is unfortunately important than gender.

Update: I can't believe it's only 6:45 pm here. It feels like this has been going on for hours. NBC has Hillary with 75 electoral votes and Trump with 72. No Florida, Ohio, PA, NC or VA yet.

Update: Marco Rubio has won reelection. He's doing much better than Trump. Hillary is killing Trump in Miami Dade, leading him by 30 points, 40 points in Broward, 17 points in Palm Beach and 7 points in Hillsboro. How can they not call it for Hillary?

Update: I think Hillary will take Florida. Florida turnout: Broward did not have great turnout, 615,086 of 1,179,255, 52%, but Hillary is killing Trump there with 69% of the vote. Miami Dade had much higher turnout, 959,402 of 1,379,230, 69%, and Hillary has 64% of the vote. Palm Beach not great turnout: 442,193 of 901,642, 49%, but Hillary is killing Trump there (and it's home to Trump's Mar a Lago.). Hillsboro is higher, 521,298 of 849,838, 61% and going for Hillary -- she's 9 points ahead. Volusia has very high turnout Volusia, 255,081 of 363,438, 70% and is going for Trump.

Update: No winners in the big battlegrounds yet. Hillary has won Illinois, Mass., Maryland, District of Columbia, Vermont, Delaware, Rhode Island.

Exit polls show Hillary has the votes of 20% more college educated women in Pennsylvania than Obama. Hillary has 62% of the Hispanic vote in Florida (and that is despite the Cuban vote which still are trending Republican). [More...]

Seriously? A Clinton campaign ad is running on CBS. It's 6:00 here. Who hasn't already decided who they are voting for? The polls close in Colorado in an hour and a half (voting machine problems caused the polls to extend the time.)

Update: I forgot the networks are also covering the results. I tried NBC, which at least pointed out the need to differentiate which counties have reported. But I didn't care for James Carville.

I'm now watching CBS. It was good for a half hour and now they have pollster Frank Luntz on? How did he get a job with a major network? Time to try another channel. On Florida, Broward is not in yet. It has more than 1 million voters. So does Miami Dade. Palm Beach has 900,000 and Hillsbrough (Tampa) has 800,000. The other counties are much smaller.

The results from the predictably Republican states are coming in. I skipped them. (Indiana, KY, West Virginia). Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina are too close to call.

I keep muting CNN. Their pundits are terrible, but so is John King tonight. All he wants to talk about is how Mitt Romney and Obama did.

Wolf says Trump has to win Ohio. That just keeps him in the race a little longer.

Marco Rubio is out-performing Trump in Miami-Dade. Florida as a whole is too close to call.

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    My stomach is twisted into knots. (5.00 / 5) (#6)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:18:59 PM EST
    I wish I had Jeralyn's confidence.

    CBS just said (none / 0) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:43:15 PM EST
    Hillary has finished the final edits of her speech. Yesterday they were working on two speeches, tonight only one. The reporter said that's a sign Hillary believes she will win.

    Hillary does not have to win Florida, Trump does.

    Parent

    VA is not looking good anymore either. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:50:10 PM EST
    VA has been (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:15:25 PM EST
    called for Hillary.

    Parent
    If Trump pulls this out (God help us if he does) (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:39:57 PM EST
    my only wish is that I am awake and have the channel on MSNBC and witness spontaneous combustion.  Maddow and Matthews will explode.

    Maddow might combust (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:02:52 PM EST
    Matthews would probably celebrate.

    Stock market is tanking already on the possibility of Trump winning. If he pulls it out, I'm going to have to call tomorrow and take all my money out.

    Parent

    Call early because there is going to be a line. (none / 0) (#14)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:08:22 PM EST
    Actually you should keep it in.  Remember there was a huge negative reaction immediately after Brexit, but markets rebounded.

    Parent
    Well (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:28:35 PM EST
    we are going to have the most incompetent person ever as president who thinks rounding up people and putting them in box cars is a grand and great goal. I'm not sure I want to even have to tie up money in the least little way.

    Parent
    I pulled my 401k (none / 0) (#65)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 05:22:19 AM EST
    Money out of funds and into a cash account last week.

    Will be looking to re invest it later this week

    Parent

    And we're out of coffee... (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:52:33 PM EST
    EVERYBODY PANIC!

    If Hillary loses one of the culprits is the MSM (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by hilts on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:30:32 PM EST
    because the MSM spent this campaign pushing false equivalence and Trump never received the scrutiny he deserved.

    Marijuana must be legal (none / 0) (#33)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:34:16 PM EST
    in your state.

    Parent
    I fear the country (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:33:56 PM EST
    Is in the midst of committing suicide.

    This could be heartbreaking. (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:02:38 PM EST
    I don't think I've ever been as disappointed in my country than I am right now. White men have clearly answered Trump's racist and misogynist siren calls. Next up: We'll need to watch what happens to the world financial markets. It likely won't be pretty.

    Parent
    And many more women (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by jondee on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:08:52 PM EST
    than I ever dreamed was possible, did what Gloria Steinem said and seemingly just followed the boys.

    Parent
    I talked with a lot of people (none / 0) (#55)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:08:51 AM EST
    during the lead up as well as working the polls yesterday.  The same old wedge issue, abortion and the Supreme Court picks needed to stop it or limit it, was the main concern of conservative women with whom I spoke.  

    It almost seemed to be the only issue consonant with the usual definitions of conservatism.  If that sounds strange it's because in other respects, the local conservatives aren't.  They're all over the map.  They want a line drawn and will accept any compromise or humiliation to stop or limit abortion.

    Parent

    trump is a business man (none / 0) (#57)
    by linea on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:18:00 AM EST
    he'll give them an anti-choice justice. that was the deal.

    Parent
    Now that's a safe prediction (none / 0) (#59)
    by jondee on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:26:19 AM EST
    Looks like I call my realtor tomorrow. (none / 0) (#46)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:08:14 PM EST
    I'm too old to end my days in a country headed by the likes of Donald Drumpf. Time to exit stage left. I may have access to a casita in Mexico City. I also have my eye on Ireland.

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    A German expat friend says Trump's name (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:59:50 PM EST
    was Trump, not Drumpf.

    James Carville: "The power of an idea overcame the power of a turnout operation"

    I'm not giving up.  

    I'm not moving.

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    This is not my country anymore. (none / 0) (#56)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:17:05 AM EST
    If you are good with living amongst the deplorables, more power to you. I do not. I prefer not to breathe the same air as the racists and xenophobes who will be emboldened by this turn of events. I am intolerant of intolerance and ignorance. This is no longer a safe country for me to be in.

    Parent
    Cuenca Ecuador (none / 0) (#50)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:18:18 PM EST
    is worth a serious look.

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    Know the exact feeling... (none / 0) (#61)
    by gbrbsb on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:02:00 AM EST
    ...I just woke up to Brexit deja vu!

    Last night same graphs showing Brexit couldn't win... and this morning, same rural vote giving two fingers to the political establishment!

    The democrats would have had a better chance with protest vote Bernie and if there's a snap election here in the UK maybe protest vote Corbyn has more of a chance than the polls show... just please G*d let it not be Trump's protest buddy Farage !  

    Parent

    Exactly (none / 0) (#66)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 05:25:05 AM EST
    Last night same graphs showing Brexit couldn't win... and this morning, same rural vote giving two fingers to the political establishment!

    The democrats would have had a better chance with protest vote Bernie

    Both parties had a significant amount of anti establishment fervor

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    Our country is in big-time trouble (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by FreakyBeaky on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:41:44 PM EST


    I feel sick looking at the results so far. (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by vml68 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:47:38 PM EST
    I cannot believe Tr*mp is so close.

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    As Soon As I Saw (none / 0) (#68)
    by Jane in CA on Sat Nov 12, 2016 at 09:01:35 AM EST
    Trump had taken Indiana, I had a terrible feeling, correctly as it turned out, that he was going to win. I never thought of Indiana as one of 'those' states, and the fact that Indiana took it so easily and with such a huge margin told me that he was going to win this election.

    Parent
    Sorry (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Jane in CA on Sat Nov 12, 2016 at 09:06:04 AM EST
    I have been avoiding the news since Tuesday. This is the first newsite I have been on so forgive me please for being a little tardy with my comments :)

    I have been literally sick to my stomach all week. And, no it's not the flu or a bug. It is triggered by the sight of that crazy toupee and that voice and Hillary bravely holding back tears and doing the right thing as she as done again and again and again throughout her life. Now that she's not a threat to the good ole boys, watch her top the "most admired"woman list again.


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    "The Horror, the horror" (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:49:10 PM EST
    - Conrad

    I never thought I would see the day (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:38:34 AM EST
    that we had Frankenstein's monster and his sidekick freak as POTUS and VP but here we are. What a nightmare. People are going to lose their insurance. People are going to lose their hard fought rights. It's a terrible day for our country when a KKK endorsed candidate wins an election.

    Can you imagine (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:20:51 AM EST
    a return to Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich? I can't. I will ridicule them mercilessly every day by reprinting all their past peccadilloes if I keep blogging.

    It's awful, everyone's exhausted (none / 0) (#64)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:59:00 AM EST
    And this is what a majority of the country wants...Brexit

    And now you talk about hanging up blogging.

    BTD is in a lot of psychic pain...betrayal

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    It looks like (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 07:04:40 PM EST
    Hillary is going to carry Florida. She's ahead and Broward and Dade have not reported yet. Likely she's got enough of a margin to take Rubio out of the senate too.

    Broward did not have (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 07:11:05 PM EST
    great turnout, 615,086 of 1,179,255, 52%

    Miami had much higher turnout, 959,402 of
    1,379,230, 69%


    Parent

    Not seeing that (none / 0) (#9)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 08:48:30 PM EST
    She's down by a significant amount and Broward and Dade are mostly in.

    Parent
    That was (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:01:43 PM EST
    old like hour or so ago when I wrote it.

    Parent
    im calling the race for Hillary! (none / 0) (#3)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 07:12:34 PM EST
    you heard it from me first. LoL

    I did the same (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 07:28:11 PM EST
    before I saw your comment.

    Parent
    {{ hugs }} (none / 0) (#5)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 07:48:31 PM EST
    im watching Feabag (six-part BBC series on Amazon) for the second time and drinking wine tonight. highly recommended. im so sure Hillary is going to win that i am amused with the induced drama on television news. and i usually have serious anxiety about everything.

    Parent
    The NYT live forecast is (none / 0) (#16)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:16:16 PM EST
    pretty addictive to watch.  Can't say how accurate it is but it's neat.

    it is cool looking but (none / 0) (#20)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:41:00 PM EST
    I don't think it's right. For example, Pennsylvania seems to be in Hillary's column and there aren't many counties left.

    Parent
    Western PA and (none / 0) (#30)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:24:55 PM EST
    Rural counties usually report late. And trend GOP. That said Dems seem to be winning statewise races Senate, Auditor, Treasurer.

    Parent
    The stock market is tanking (none / 0) (#17)
    by CoralGables on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:27:27 PM EST
    which means investors think Trump may pull it off.

    We are going (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:35:38 PM EST
    to have a serious economic problem shortly if Trump wins. We're also going to have someone on trial for fraud. What a nightmare.

    Parent
    from 538 (none / 0) (#22)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:43:58 PM EST
    looks like Hillary will get the presidency but the Republicans will win the Senate.

    Parent
    The Oracle of Oslo? (none / 0) (#23)
    by jondee on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:49:30 PM EST
    all these wishful thinking-based projections aren't helping my stress level.

    Parent
    ha ! (none / 0) (#26)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:02:57 PM EST
    trump cant win. when the drop boxes close on the Pacific coast they will add all those electoral votes to the total.

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    I am honestly at a loss (none / 0) (#21)
    by CST on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:43:19 PM EST
    We all know the market is going to crash - but then what?

    Republicans will have to actually try and govern.

    you are silly (none / 0) (#24)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:51:34 PM EST
    Hillary wins when you add all the Pacific states to the electoral count total. ballot drop-off locations close at 8-p.m.

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    Pacific states don't mean squat (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 09:55:09 PM EST
    if Trump wins Michigan and Wisconsin

    Parent
    What? (none / 0) (#67)
    by Yman on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 10:55:43 AM EST
    WHO is "silly"?

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    They are incapable of governing. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:16:29 PM EST
    They have proved that time and again. Our best hope is for a four year civil war within the GOP.

    Parent
    I'm thinking they're looking ahead (none / 0) (#29)
    by jondee on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:24:39 PM EST
    to another actual civil war at some point.

    Parent
    FL is next state to be called for Trump (none / 0) (#28)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:22:46 PM EST


    Whether Trump wins or not this (none / 0) (#34)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:37:28 PM EST
    election has been a lot closer than many predicted.  Will it be viewed as a rebuke of Hillary or of President Obama's presidency?

    No doubt both. (none / 0) (#36)
    by jondee on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:41:51 PM EST
    a rebuke (none / 0) (#40)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:49:39 PM EST
    of polling methodology?

    Parent
    It will be a rebuke (none / 0) (#41)
    by CST on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:53:22 PM EST
    Of the American people.

    Parent
    Jeralyn posted (none / 0) (#38)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 10:48:56 PM EST
    The Detroit Free Press calls Michigan for Hillary. It says Trump cannot win without either Michigan or Pennsylvania, even with wins in Ohio and Florida.


    I think if he picks up Iowa, Wisconsin (none / 0) (#42)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:01:27 PM EST
    and Arizona he wins, even losing MI and PA.

    Parent
    im properly confused (none / 0) (#45)
    by linea on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:05:25 PM EST
    is it really this close?

    Parent
    Yes its that close (none / 0) (#48)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:10:21 PM EST
    No one else (none / 0) (#43)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:01:46 PM EST
    Is calling Michigan for Hillary.

    Parent
    no but the Detroit Free Press (none / 0) (#52)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:21:25 PM EST
    knows the state. Only 72% of the vote is in as of now.

    Parent
    Huffpost reporting (none / 0) (#53)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:24:29 PM EST
    Drumpf leading in MI with 73% of vote counted

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    81% of the vote is in now (none / 0) (#58)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 12:25:34 AM EST
    And Ann Arbor (Washtenaw) has only 45% in. Detroit and Genessee still have significant votes to be counted and she'll win both.

    Parent
    Maddow is on the verge (none / 0) (#49)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:15:05 PM EST
    of having a full breakdown on camera.

    California (none / 0) (#51)
    by coast on Tue Nov 08, 2016 at 11:19:04 PM EST
    Spent my days with a woman unkind
    Smoked my stuff and drank all my wine.
    Made up my mind to make a new start
    Going To California with an aching in my heart.
    -LZ

    A concession phone call has been reported (none / 0) (#63)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:42:43 AM EST
    Dunno if it's true.